Kanzenshuu

BootyCheeksJohnson wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:46 am Canon Broly. I think most of us did to an extent. Obviously he had to be stopped because he was dangerous but I felt really bad when Gogeta attempted to kill him, especially when he started coming down from his rage.
It felt like putting down an animal.

Yeah you have a point.

capsulecorp wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:05 pm i know, i didn't mean to sound like i was rebutting your post, i just wanted to share my enthusiasm for cheelai and lemo.

They certainly were an important part of the film.

You know Op, now that I think about it, we can't even blame Gowasu too much. Because pretty much EVERYONE underestimated Zamasu and his plan, and they all paid for it dearly. I suppose that's a natural outcome of Zamasu being a master manipulator who can easily and skilfully take advantage of peopl...

I'm not criticizing them. I'm just saying that they didn't know very much about Saiyans. They also gave him a chance for great emotional growth.

I agree that Gowasu did underestimate Zamasu. But in the manga Zamasu desired Kakarot's power after he saw him on God-Tube as I recall. I could be wrong about this though.

DBZ Broly was implied to still have his tail as I recall and his Bio-Broly clone also had his tail too. So the tail isn't a bummer IMO. I would love to see Super Saiyan 4 Limit Break go ever further and maybe rival other techniques of the gods.

It would be interesting to see new forms for the Xeno Kakarot and Xeno Vegeta. Though I think the limit breaker form for SSJ4 is enough.

It seems that Cheelai and Lemo don't know very much about Saiyans. While they were right that Broly doesn't like to fight except when his fighting instincts are aroused. They didn't seem to know that Saiyans like Broly are naturally prone to going berserk.

WittyUsername wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:32 pm I like the sound of Super Saiyan Primal.

Me too. I think someone else came up with the name on here I just can't remember who.

Due to its nature I feel like the SSJ4 is on equal footing with SSJB

I think "Super Saiyan Ape" would have sufficed. It did require unlocking Super Saiyan to achieve, after all. Or Super Saiyan Primeival or Super Saiyan Primal. But yeah its not part of the 'proper' Super Saiyan line. Its still a Super Saiyan form just not part of the main Super Saiyan line.

Super Saiyan 4. Its awesome its beastly, its strong. Everyone one could ask for in a Super Saiyan form.

Jiren was awesome. But I really liked those Universe 6 Saiyans.

The Universe 2 fighters Ribrianne, Kakunsa and Roazie were interesting. But Ribrianne's appearance was a bit over the top. I felt that the Saiyan women of Universe 6 were sexy and the other warriors of Universe 6 were cool. So were the warriors of Universe 11.

Monna really gets under my skin. She was really stupid when she underestimated Cabba and the other Saiyans.

I'm not so sure you are correct. Vegeta deliberate took damage to reach greater heights and in doing so let himself get more damaged than necessary. Kakarot did not allow himself to take more damage than necessary.

Shenron could have granted that since they did have the potential, right? But would they need to give up some of their lifespan for it? DBS canon dictates that a wish made with the Super Dragon Balls to be the strongest in the universe would reduce the wisher's lifespan. Plain DB/DBZ canon never ha...

Beerus may have created a new timeline but he did the right thing but getting rid of Present Zamasu.

They do explain it but there is still the paradox.

I feel like there is a big problem in the logic of Goku Black being from the original present timeline and going to Future Trunks' timeline prompting Future Trunks to flee to the present timeline.