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What's your placement for the base Saiyajins during the Boo saga? Do you think they eventually surpassed Freeza? Or do you take Beerus' statement as evidence that the Tyrant had yet to be outstripped? Offer your input.

What'd be your estimation for Vegeta's battle power post his last Zenkai on Namek? I think 2.4 millions fits well with Goku's official number, but if you want to scale your own way, I'd say Vegeta gets up to 3 millions or so.

Yeah, but Piccolo may have thought Trunks was over exaggerating No reason whatsoever for Piccolo to think Trunks was exaggerating. Were this the case, we'd have this expressed by Piccolo. Piccolo took Trunks' words with a tune of seriousness and dismissed Yamcha's words of this all being a set up. ...

dragon boss z wrote:Maybe Piccolo thought the androids only beat Trunks because it was 2v1,

No, Trunks stated in the original manga that even fighting one on one he was barely able to escape alive. They were expecting enemies > Trunks at the very least.

If he has no idea, doesn't that mean he has to have surpassed Trunks, at least? Because if he didn't, the answer would be clear: they simply aren't as strong as we were told.

dragon boss z wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:01 am Stronger than 50% Frieza, but weaker than 100%.

Any reason for having him weaker than Freeza?

So this is Piccolo post his three years preparation training for the androids. Before he fused with Kami into a unique single warrior like he once was. How strong do you have him?

That’s the kind of point I don’t understand. If Vegeta knew Gohan can beat Boo, why would he want to kill the other Boo? Gohan is not that dumb to be defeated by the same technique three times. And if they want to be sure Gotenks doesn’t mess up, just toss the kids aside like they did in the entire...

Vegeta rejected "Goku's" idea of bringing Gotenks and Gohan to fight Boo but not under the basis that they wouldn't be enough... but so the Earthlings could play a role on saving Earth. That’s the kind of point I don’t understand. If Vegeta knew Gohan can beat Boo, why would he want to ki...

Vegeta rejected "Goku's" idea of bringing Gotenks and Gohan to fight Boo but not under the basis that they wouldn't be enough... but so the Earthlings could play a role on saving Earth. He even stated "these Earthlings ought to learn to take care of things for once", so the impre...

When was it exactly stated it'd be their end? Can someone post the statement?

1) Super Saiyan 3 Raditz (Saiyan Saga) vs. First Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga). 2) Super Saiyan 3 Nappa (Saiyan Saga) vs. Second Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga). 3) Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta (Saiyan Saga) vs. Third Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga). 1 - Using the official 400x multiplier for SSJ3, we'd...

@Steven Bloodriver@ The Super Boo instace wasn't really a mistake Gohan committed due to arrogance. Super Boo blew himself up (which Gohan couldn't have done anything about but run from the place) and then absorbed Gotenks, which Gohan didn't know/think about. Gohan lost not because he was too arrog...

@Darkprince410

What do you think about the point that Goku, when saying they are no match for Super Boo like this, meant their size by "like this", rather than they unfused state?

When Vegeta ordered to ressurect the Earth's population, Goku thought he was thinking in wishing Gotenks and Gohan to fight against Kid Boo. Could the and suggest one simple warrior wasn't enough? If the two Mentally-Handicapped Morons of Son Goku and Vegeta (Angel) did not crush the 2 pairs of Pot...

Vegeta stated that with Super Saiyajin 3, Goku can gather all his might into an attack and that that would be enough to finish Kid Boo. Goku also stated that they'd have done it (killed Kid Boo) in one blast if they fought as Vegetto. So a Genki-Dama isn't the only chi blast with which you can kill ...

Kaboom wrote:I don't think there was any such deep meaning. Just that Goku thought that's what Vegeta wanted to do, and presumably that it'd be a good idea.

But why say Gotenks and Gohan, rather than Gotenks or Gohan? The "and" might lend credence to the idea that just one of them wouldn't be enough.

When Vegeta ordered to ressurect the Earth's population, Goku thought he was thinking in wishing Gotenks and Gohan to fight against Kid Boo. Could the and suggest one simple warrior wasn't enough?

ahill's passionate battle power list: Fight against Freeza-Sama!!! Piccolo (post Nail) -- 1,250,000 - (Non weights) -- 1,500,000 Freeza (3rd form) -- 2,000,000 Vegeta (final Zenkai) -- 2,700,000 Freeza final form (initially) -- 3,000,000 - (Tooling Vegeta) -- 4,050,000 - (Underestimating base Goku)...

ahill's passionate battle power list: Fight against Freeza-Sama!!! Piccolo (post Nail) -- 1,250,000 - (Non weights) -- 1,500,000 Freeza (3rd form) -- 2,000,000 Vegeta (final Zenkai) -- 2,700,000 Freeza final form (initially) -- 3,000,000 - (Tooling Vegeta) -- 4,050,000 - (Underestimating base Goku) ...