Kanzenshuu

Avoiding something like a bullet would be one part neuronal condunction and another part muscle fibre. You would have to somehow enhance your mylen sheath needed for neuronal movement to the point that it makes a penaeid shrimp's impulses look slow by comparison -- keeping in mind that there are bo...

That was because his body was destroyed. These guys are just exhausted. If I can clear a 2 m gap like it's child's play when I'm fresh, then get beaten up to the point where I can barely move, do you think I'd still be able to clear the same 2 m gap to save my life? Not even a snowball's chance in ...

Even if your reactions were literally instant you still wouldn't be able to dodge a bullet at close range simply because your body doesn't have the capability.

Apparently Toppo and Dyspo got weakened to Early DB levels if they weren't even able to clear a gap that small. Again with the power level stuff. Did people complain when Saiyan saga Vegeta with a beating like his should've also been able to get up and walk like it was nothing since it takes litera...

Apparently Toppo and Dyspo got weakened to Early DB levels if they weren't even able to clear a gap that small.

Piccolo will take out a few minions before immediately jobbing to Broly. Maybe he takes a hit for Gohan if he's in the movie.

Kind of sucks that even if this movie does extremely well the odds of it reaching the top 10 are practically zero.

AvatarReiko wrote:How strong is powered up SSJ Goku from Movie 8? Could he beat Cell or SSJ2 Gohan

I don't think this is the thread for that, but I don't think he'd stand a chance against Cell or Gohan. Cell because of his regeneration and Gohan because he's simply too strong.

Guys, what if every future villain is hyped to have "Destructive power greater than a God of Destruction?!" but they never actually clarify and it's forever left ambiguous?

Man, I keep coming back to get disappointed. Even the 2 minutes I put into this every few months feels like a complete waste, but I've already invested too much time into this to drop it now.

Kenneth La Torre wrote:

TheUltimateNinja wrote:How the hell can Gogeta last even 5 seconds against a dude who's stronger than GoDs?

The same way ui goku beat a mortal above a hakaishin in less than 30 seconds in db time.

UI Goku is much stronger than Vegetto who is in turn superior to Gogeta.

I hope Beerus gets killed by Broly so we can finally definitively say he's been surpassed with no room for doubt.

How the hell can Gogeta last even 5 seconds against a dude who's stronger than GoDs?

ZombieVito wrote:

ekrolo2 wrote: Daizenshu 7 says that Vegetto's Base form power is superior to a Super Saiyan 3

It never says the form.

It says he's stronger than a Super Saiyan 3, and then says he can transform. Given the context it's clearly referring to his base state.

Base Goku should be overwhelmingly superior to SS3 Vegetto, using SSG would have been completely pointless otherwise.

That's basically Grade 4. They could reduce their power to conserve stamina when not in a battle.

Speaking of Gohan, I can't believe he has the nerve to renounce his Saiyan side when it's the only reason he's even somewhat relevant. If he were born human he'd be a joke like Tenshinhan.

And if Ultra Instinct makes Goku strong enough to hurt Jiren then it's still a power up and if anything validates Goku's line of thinking if not his method. Right, but the bolded is the clincher, isn't it? Goku thought he could overcome his limits by just powering up; in actuality, the key is effic...

I agree that going for more power was a logical move on Goku's part, it's not like he was being outskilled by Jiren, what he needed really was pure power. Also, had a good laugh at Roshi acting like he was some kind of combat genius.

What if a future disaster occurs from having two Zenos exist in the same timeline for too long so the Grand Priest pulls a Raiden, but instead of sending his consciousness back he is only able to send Goku's knowledge of events back in time to the beginning of DB, and allows Goku to prepare for Zam...