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And honestly I don’t see any evidence that shows that Piccolo has surpassed a Cell Jr. either, at least not until he had his potential unlocked. Piccolo before the ToP was seen easily defeating SSJ2 Gohan, this same Gohan must have been at least as strong as his Buu Saga self, so Piccolo should be ...

Well Piccolo has done it so, back to the humans. Has he though? Cause if we're talking about Super's anime, I'd sorely disagree. And I'd notice, as Piccolo is and has always been my favorite character. If we're talking the movie, with him getting his new potential unleashed form, I'd still say that...

GatoF wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:07 pm How strong is base Piccolo in the new movie considering that he fought two SSB tier characters like Gamma 2 and Moro and he survived.

In the manga, he is above SSJ3 tier but still below SSG. In the movie continuity he has to be somewhere between Base and SSJ tier.

Giant Orange Piccolo vs Anilaza Ultimate Piccolo vs Hit (U6 arc) Ultimate Piccolo vs SSJR Trunks Ganma 1 & 2 vs Dyspo and Base Toppo Kid Pan (no flying) vs Tao Pai Pai 1. Orange Piccolo most likely wins this. Both are far above SSB, but Orange Piccolo's feat is more impressive since attacks com...

How does Ultimate Gohan's strength compare from the Tournament of Power to Super Hero? I think Super Hero Ultimate Gohan should be stronger, given that he was able to fight the Gammas, who were above 17 and comparable to SSB Goku and Vegeta. And according to Toshio on Twitter, Gohan and 17 were equ...

So everyone what's your ranking for these characters Super Saiyan Blue Goku Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta Golden Frieza Top Wrathful Broly Ultimate Gohan Ultimate Piccolo Android 17 Gamma 1 Gamma 2 This is my order for now: Golden Frieza/SSB Goku/Vegeta Toppo/Ultimate Gohan Gamma 1/2 Ultimate Piccolo Wr...

Where did the idea come from that the Gammas were equal to Goku and Vegeta? In the movie, after Piccolo's fight with Gamma 2, he says that based on his movements, his strength is comparable to Goku and Vegeta. I believe he is referring to their SSB forms. I don't think he really said they were equa...

Yeah, we see that Gamma 2's punches didn't flinch Orange Piccolo.

Gamma 2's attack against Cell Max went far above his own power level, using every bit of power left, similar to Vegeta's suicide attack in the Buu Arc.

So I guess the power scaling in this movie would be something similar to this: Base Gohan < Base Piccolo < SSJ Gohan << Ultimate Piccolo < Ultimate Gohan < Gamma 1 = Gamma 2 << Orange Piccolo < Cell Max << Final Gohan Supposedly SSB Goku and Vegeta would more or less fit somewhere around or above Ga...

So the power scale seems to be this: Major Spoilers: Gohan Blanco >> Cell Max > Orange Piccolo >> Gamma 1/Gamma 2 > Ultimate Gohan > Ultimate Piccolo. Were Gamma 1 and Gamma 2 really stronger than Ultimate Gohan and Piccolo? I read an spoiler post from someone in another site saying only SSJ Gohan ...

How strong do you think Gamma 1 & 2 will be? Stronger than Zamasu, but weaker than Jiren and Broly would be my guess. Gamma 1 and Gamma 2 are stated to be the strongest androids of all. That includes Android 17, who was SSB tier in the anime. Gohan was equal to Android 17 in the ToP in the anim...

Broly 2nd Coming: Piccolo doesn't actually appear, so there's one Z movie he's not in. Bio-Broly: No Piccolo again. Then again no Gohan either... Fusion Reborn: I honestly don't remember if Piccolo even appeared in it. Wrath of the Dragon: I think Piccolo just gets beaten by Hildegarn like everyone...

I believe the promotional material for the Battle of Gods explicitly places Super Saiyan as a 50x multiplier so that's likely not the case when the movie was made. When did promo material of BoG said the SSJ transformation from the movie was x50 may I ask? I would like to know. I could see it going...

I think this all depends how big the boosts of the Cell Saga were. It also depends whether or not you have MSSJ as a same multiplier as an unmastered SSJ. Because if they are still the same boost, then Goku simply got magnitudes of times stronger inside the RoSaT, to the point that I think if we add...

Luso Saiyan wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:33 am Just discovered that the official site now has character profiles. Any interesting tidbits in the text for those who can read japanese? Or is this old news and has been discussed already?

Yeah, this is old news. I think you can read the translations somewhere on Twitter.

Like, Kakunsa and Rosie could legitimately give a good fight to 17 and 18 (which alone should mean they could hold her own against the God forms of Goku and Vegeta), but Ribrianne fluctuated between trading blows evenly with SS Vegeta to only keep Base Goku in his toes while in her strongest state ...

Let's not forget that 17 couldn't even beat Dyspo. This same Dyspo was easily stomped by Kefla, who was equal to Gohan. And this Gohan was still not on SSB Goku and Vegeta's level, according to Krillin during the ToP and according to Piccolo during the Moro Arc (with Gohan stated to be the strongest...

I'm positive the new movie will place Base Piccolo way below SSJB, probably around golden SSJ forms at best, but until I actually see the movie I'll be taking his feats against Saganbo face value. I didn't consider Freeza because we have no idea of how strong he really is currently. With that poten...

Everyone name the top 10 strongest characters in the series to date, at their peak. No deities and no fusions. Who have you got? I've got 1. Gas 2. Granolah 3/4. Goku and Vegeta 5. Moro 6/7. Broly and Jiren 8. Saganbo 9/10. Frieza and Top Something like that. As how things are right now: 1. Gas (Th...

I had seen other Wafer Cards sets, and they seem to place Base Saiyans from the ToP somewhere around the Android Saga tier. Base Vegeta against Jiren in Set 14 puts him at 5,000, just a fair bit below Future Androids 17 and 18 at 5,100, but stronger than SSJ Future Gohan at 4,900. In the Broly Movie...