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by Hugo Boss
Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:41 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1637168

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Yes, but if it's something they think about amidst the battle, then it wouldn't be relevant to the assessment they made then, of SSJ not being necessary and not damaging their odds when Gohan wants to win and he'a also aware of Vegeta's goals. Fair enough. However, while one may interpret the initi...
by Hugo Boss
Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:39 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1637168

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

But wouldn't a self thought, like thinking to themselves, be maybe a way to employ this strategy without discussing it? Perhaps you mean from the perspective of the writer, but if there's an implication there that SSJ wasn't seen as needed by them, wouldn't it be valid enough for the author to show...
by Hugo Boss
Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:33 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1637168

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Edit: Hugo Boss Vegeta was shown to be wrong, but by something he couldn't predict -- Goku's powers. That's not a proper rebuttal to this, as he knows 18's powers. One he saw Goku's power vs Yakon, he admitted the gap between them was still there... He isn't blind to reason, come on now. Besides, i...
by Hugo Boss
Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:47 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1637168

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Of course it changes the implications, for they IMPLY something, they aren't certainties, is as easily as assuming Vegeta was being overconfident, and that 18 was holding back enough for the NEW REVELATION TO FIT THE NARRATIVE. Not to mention Vegeta was wrong, since he wasn’t even the strongest Sai...
by Hugo Boss
Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:59 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 136
Views: 15970

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread

I like Super stepping away from constant Goku/Vegeta, I've been bored of them for years. Nice to see the rest of the cast. From what I’ve heard, Goku and Vegeta will appear a lot in this chapter. And Broly too. It’s just not solely focused on them. Edit: Apparently the whole chapter has leaked, but...
by Hugo Boss
Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:34 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1637168

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Yeah, there are nothing that suggest anything either way, at the end of the day. All we have are just a Beerus' line that may be massively questionable and quite possibly very misinterpreted for one side, and a gap of sixteen years for the other side (and it's not sixteen years slacking off either)...
by Hugo Boss
Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:28 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1637168

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Funny enough, as far as I remember, there is nothing in the original manga suggesting Base Saiyans surpassed Freeza, so seeing such bold claims coming from someone called the PowerLevelGuy must not be a good sign…
by Hugo Boss
Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:18 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5699325

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I'm all aboard Toriyama's train of thought there. Rematches aren't necessary, and Toriyama himself is far more interested in using the next character/antagonist/villain as the ever-moving goalpost. He actually keeps taking them FURTHER away from us! I think that's quaint, neat, and quintissential D...
by Hugo Boss
Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:55 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1637168

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

So we allegedly "know" stuff that isn't explicitly said and stems from fans' own lopsided "everything ever is a power statement" way of reading scenes. But then stuff that is explicitly told to us is "overstated" and "based on nothing" and "headcanon.&qu...
by Hugo Boss
Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:23 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The Cell Saga is the most existential in the series
Replies: 14
Views: 1235

Re: The Cell Saga is the most existential in the series

I don't know why Gohan should be a full-fledged warrior who kills when necessary without remorse. The lesson he learned was sometimes you have to fight to protect others, not necessarily to kill. And then he had to learn that lesson again at the Cell Games. I agree with everything else, but who say...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5699325

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Most of the time Goku just beats someone even stronger than whoever defeated him last. I think that works out well enough for me. And Vegeta is usually the one that surpass the one that defeated Goku last, but most of the time loses to the next big enemy. It’s interesting that as soon as Vegeta dir...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Jan 13, 2024 1:55 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The Cell Saga is the most existential in the series
Replies: 14
Views: 1235

Re: The Cell Saga is the most existential in the series

I also agree that Cell arc added unnecessary character traits to Gohan. That last minute drama also strikes me oddly, since he should be a full-fledged warrior by the end of Saiyan arc, killing when necessary without feeling guilty. The only reason his character arc wasn’t finished yet was his inabi...
by Hugo Boss
Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:29 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1637168

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

So to make a point of their irrelevancy, Freeza picked on the strongest character there which could draw the point home of how outmatched they are. That could be very well the case, but for real this is just one way of interpreting that scene — that Freeza is suggesting Base Gohan is stronger than ...
by Hugo Boss
Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:07 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1637168

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

But Freeza had an accurate view over Gohan's overall power. He knew he could end the army in an instant but was holding back. If he knew what he was capable of if Gohan felt like it, I fail to see why he wouldn't do the same to Piccolo, who was likely fighting more unrestricted than Gohan. Because ...
by Hugo Boss
Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:55 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1637168

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

But the intuition point is to convey that someone's power can be fairly accurately judged even if they aren't using a high effort level. Gohan was likely holding back even more than Piccolo due to his pacifist nature. The fact Freeza singled him out in response to Sorbet disbelief of the army being...
by Hugo Boss
Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:57 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1637168

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Because Freeza deemed him as the strongest seeing their display when Gohan was on his base state. They were all holding back, but the fact Gohan was still the one who drew attention to him besides the knowledge that they were all going easy shows it's the strongest power there regardless of transfo...
by Hugo Boss
Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread
Replies: 76013
Views: 8768678

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Guys.. Akio Iyoku: I will continue to produce works, such as anime series, movies, and games, over the next 10 years. (...) He also shares his concerns about the anime industry and how one should approach it: It is tough to see the competition among anime (due to the emergence of streaming sites, et...
by Hugo Boss
Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:14 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1637168

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

So it seems more logical for him to be analysing Gohan's base state abilities... And knowing they were all holding back but still choosing one shows some perception of good eyes form identifying the strongest even when the warriors, overall, aren't exerting themselves. I still don’t see how that sc...
by Hugo Boss
Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:22 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1637168

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Well yeah, but Freeza still places special attention on Gohan without knowing he can transform and knwoing they were all holding back. But the fact that despite the fact he knows holding back is a factor but Gohan picked his interest more, it tells me he had something else there in base alone from ...
by Hugo Boss
Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:04 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Anyone else disappointed with the whole new cell max, gohan beast, orange piccolo etc
Replies: 21
Views: 4084

Re: Anyone else disappointed with the whole new cell max, gohan beast, orange piccolo etc

I’ve seen a theory those forms have some kind of relationship with Hindu lores, and are even hinted sometimes within Dragon Ball’s own universe. For Piccolo (Hanuman), it would the form of the legendary dragon clan champion, since the dragon balls were supposed to reward Namekian warriors that prove...