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by Shorty GZ2
Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
Replies: 5562
Views: 583718

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

The Beast form existing in the film's storyboard with a placeholder name does make me think on if it was decided Gohan would transform at the end of the story beforehand to which then Toriyama was tasked with designing the form & naming it after/at a later date, rather than it being something he...
by Shorty GZ2
Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42697
Views: 5747123

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I hope Toyotaro watched the fourth Thor movie and got inspired by Gorr The God Butcher. A villain like Gorr would have fit very well in Dragon Ball, but I would have liked to see another, much sadder story for this type of villain that would have make us at least sympathize with him. https://i.ibb....
by Shorty GZ2
Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:36 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42697
Views: 5747123

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I think between the wishes in the Granolah arc + Whis saying he doesn't know of anyone stronger than Goku or Vegeta (and Goku being surprised when it looks like he might), it's clear that Toyotaro wrote the arc in mind that Goku and Vegeta are the strongest, and there wasn't much communication betw...
by Shorty GZ2
Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:34 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Is DB: Super creatively bankrupt
Replies: 15
Views: 3086

Re: Is DB: Super creatively bankrupt

You/We already know the answer to this question
by Shorty GZ2
Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread
Replies: 76013
Views: 8838593

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Mistake? Mistake would be to omit them. I want a format to have the whole Super story on it. They can also add the cut stuff from Broly. But that's bad, having the same "story" being retold isn't doing any favor. If only they were competent enough to improve upon the original material, th...
by Shorty GZ2
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:50 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 225
Views: 29698

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread

I don't see how the principle behind Spirit Fission is the same as Ultra Ego outside of them being powerful techniques at Vegeta's disposal. There's a narrative foundation behind Ultra Ego. It serves as Vegeta's own path that parallels Goku that was talked about since the Tournament of Power and de...
by Shorty GZ2
Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:56 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
Replies: 5562
Views: 583718

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Howling at the new Toriyama interviews Funny names, wishy-washy design philosophies and powerscaling implications aside, the movie does generally hold up enjoyment-wise (transparent Cell arc/Bio-Broly blender with a Super twist it is and all, besides the Beerus planet/Saiyan trio section) and mostly...
by Shorty GZ2
Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42697
Views: 5747123

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Funny how things work in that we seem to have reverse-opinions lmao; I don't really mind the DBS manga and still enjoy it month-by-month even though I'll be the 1st to note the arc's issues, while in contrast, I think the OPM manga has been bottoming to its most disappointing nadir in terms of chara...
by Shorty GZ2
Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
Replies: 5562
Views: 583718

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

2 new Toriyama drawings for theatergoers in celebration of the movie earning 1.2 billion yen at the box office: Cell Max + Gamma 2 & Orange Piccolo https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984844083048620083/990036522449395772/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/9848440830486200...
by Shorty GZ2
Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:17 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
Replies: 5562
Views: 583718

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

There's nothing in the subs for the movie that says Gohan didn't know Piccolo could grow big in Super Hero. Krillin's the one to remind Piccolo based on him seeing it at the 23rd BT/being the one close in proximity to him at the time, and all Gohan says on the Big Piccolo is "Yeah!" and &...
by Shorty GZ2
Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
Replies: 5562
Views: 583718

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Yeah well Super Hero still fits with Moro and Granolah, more or less. Toyotaro surely received the script when it was over, to ensure he did not do anything which could make his manga and the movie obviously incompatible. Explain how Gohan didn't know Piccolo could grow big in Super Hero. This is a...
by Shorty GZ2
Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:37 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 225
Views: 29698

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread

This might be conjecture, but from what Elec said in the prev chapter, could he really mean that since Perfected UI & UE (+ double red eyes Granolah) came before Gas, any use of those forms as they were vs Gas would be firmly fruitless? I did think that Elec's wish making Gas auto-surpass a supe...
by Shorty GZ2
Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:20 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 225
Views: 29698

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread

Whew, forgot this place existed for 2 days when I read the chapter on release. Not gonna reiterate what I enjoyably discussed with that other guy for pages on end or partake in more pre-existing sour pedantry/fartsniffing, so I'll just say I'm fine with the directions the plot/character developments...
by Shorty GZ2
Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
Replies: 5562
Views: 583718

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Gohan Blanco is dead! It's Gohan Plata!!! Novel confirms it. Hair is silver and not white; Proof? Do you have a link to the page or anything? I ask because I’d prefer his hair to actually be white. In the film it appears white but the shading/effects make it appear more gray/silver. His eyebrows ar...
by Shorty GZ2
Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Cutting 3 trips to the future down to 2
Replies: 6
Views: 877

Re: Cutting 3 trips to the future down to 2

That could work too. Though you'd have to justify why even bring Goku along for the investigation instead of him helping Vegeta fight Black in the future.
by Shorty GZ2
Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:28 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 225
Views: 29698

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread

Him having problems using silver-haired UI because of ‘Saiyan pride’ is eye-rolling. Because this supposed pride shouldn’t be a stronger emotional shock that watching someone you like die. Especially when he spends years with Vegeta who talks about nothing except Saiyan pride. It’s a mark against G...
by Shorty GZ2
Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:26 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 225
Views: 29698

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread

It really doesn’t work, imo, because Goku simply doesn’t have a history of losing focus after an emotional shock. The closest he came was going Super Saiyan and Krillin’s first death. Heck, Goku kept his head together after both of his sons and Earth got blown up by Buu. That and UI isn’t about hav...
by Shorty GZ2
Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 225
Views: 29698

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread

The long story short of all of this that a retcon happened and you have to jump through hoops to explain why using Signs is a good idea after the last arc called it an unstable energy drained and Goku shouldn’t have an emotional clash when he controlled himself after he witnessed his latest mentor ...