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- Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:12 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
I wonder how it took 5 years to produce DBSSH when we had DBSBR a couple of months after the anime finale, which was much better visually speaking. Guess working with CGI is that much hard lol There's no way it was in actual production for 5 years, they're probably saying 5 years because they start...
- Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:09 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Anyway, while I’m generally against using popularity and sales as a barometer for quality (if we do that, then those shitty Marvel movies are the greatest movies mankind has produced), noting the sales is correct to do here. As am I. I'd rather just talk about the fiction as fiction. It was a speci...
- Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:53 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Dragon Ball isn't that complicated. For the most part, people need to take what Dragon Ball say at its word instead of trying hand wave or claimed something have been retcon. [...] In short, Goku put Super Saiyan God over Fusion in both the extended cut of the movie, which was cut during the origin...
- Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:50 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Whew, forgot this place existed for 2 days when I read the chapter on release. Not gonna reiterate what I enjoyably discussed with that other guy for pages on end or partake in more pre-existing sour pedantry/fartsniffing, so I'll just say I'm fine with the directions the plot/character development...
- Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:45 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
I think Xeno Black actually has a point about questioning the idea that fused beings start off on the same level as the individuals’ strongest form. This is largely because Saiyans get stronger in all their forms when they train, thus resulting in a greater effect on their fusion. It’s not supposed...
- Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:28 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
I think the reason why the manga is not reference is due to spoilers. DBZ Movie 13 did a similar thing by not mentioning on who defeated Buu and why Mr. Satan & Fat Buu was nowhere to be seen (The anime wans't finished yet). It’s because the movie was wrong even before Broly hit the movies. It ...
- Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:56 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
It’s laughable to blame Toriyama for this when he basically shat out Broly and Superhero like they were nothing. Toriyama is leaps and bounds beyond this level of writing even when he’s just fucking around. Sure, Toyotarou does the vast majority of the writing, but Toriyama is the one who supervise...
- Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:53 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39974
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Goku was Vegito and thought he stood a chance against Beerus as a Super Saiyan God, but not using Fusion. Also in both the movie and retelling, Goku called Super Saiyan God a power like he never felt before and again, he was Vegito. Yeah but that's old news now. This was the same movie that had Bee...
- Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:30 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39974
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Yeah but we do know that Super Saiyan Blue is vastly inferior to Super Saiyan Fusion. Comment in Battle of Gods aside, we know that Goku gets a much bigger boost in power fusing and then going Super Saiyan then turning Super Saiyan Blue. So Super Saiyan God shouldn't be near the power of Super Vegi...
- Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:18 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
But remember everything has to be approved by Toriyama . Every change to the story or adding anything. It has to have his say so. Same thing with character designs. Toyotaro can write a full story. But if Toriyama doesn’t like elements, like character designs. The kid is held back and the story is ...
- Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:22 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
I think he is letting it drag cause Toriyama prob doesn’t have an idea yet for the next arc after super hero. I hope whatever he and Toyotaro come up with, it will be fun. This arc has its ups and downs. I wish it was a weekly series, it would drag less. I doubt that since Moro was basically Toyo's...
- Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:05 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
I think he is letting it drag cause Toriyama prob doesn’t have an idea yet for the next arc after super hero. I hope whatever he and Toyotaro come up with, it will be fun. This arc has its ups and downs. I wish it was a weekly series, it would drag less. I doubt that since Moro was basically Toyo's...
- Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:11 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Probably because Majin Bra was generally more interesting than Gas and I don't even like Bra. That and more than just three people fought.
- Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:11 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
All of these examples involved more characters and plot twists than the current saga. This long sequence of battles between Goku, Vegeta, Granola and Gas (with an honorable mention for Bardock) has lasted 3 and a half volumes. And. It's. Not. Over. Yet. Even for the same series, the Tournament of P...
- Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:21 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Overall, I always disliked how Toyo writes UI as far back to the TOP and said it was inferior to how the anime presented it, especially his take on UI Signs. And this chapter only further confirms that Toyo doesn't know how to write UI. The closest he came was UI vs Moro and he went and dumped that ...
- Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:35 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Except Toyo didn't write it, Toriyama did. We don't know how strong Kibito-Shin was because he didn't fight. We only know that he was weaker than Gotenks Buu. Toyo was explaining it with Toriyama present in the same interview. Toyotaro flatout said Merged Zamasu wasn't all that strong in the outlin...
- Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:35 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Thing is we only have Toyo who said this and we don't have the context to how they stall Fusion Zamaus. This is what happens when you only have an outline, not even a final draft, and it relied to you through hearsay. For the most part, when fusion happens that is more than just a small increase in...
- Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:42 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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17 being on SSB range of power as the anime and manga suggest creates another small issue, with him being too close to Gammas, despite they being advertised as the strongest androids so far and comparable to SSB. I think a good compromise is scaling him down to sub-SSG or Majin Boo level. Freeza in...
- Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:29 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
We just know that Gohan hasn’t gotten weaker. We don’t know how he compares to his USS self since that was several years ago. That and the last time we know Piccolo saw Goku and Vegeta was in Broly. Also, Gohan was still weaker than Blue in the TOP. He had trouble against Toppo. He should be the sa...
- Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:40 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
- Replies: 5562
- Views: 574763
Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
That wasn’t going to happen because Cell isn’t that popular in Japan. He constantly ranks among the least popular villains in polls. Perhaps but that's not the case in the west. This is an international franchise. Broly made 70% of its money outside of Japan. There comes a time when you gotta take ...