Kanzenshuu

Perhaps Beerus was commenting the fact that Goku wasn't transformed, like he had seen him in his battle against Freeza through Whis. It doesn't have to be about power all the time, you know, at least in BoG. As far as I know, Base Saiyans are already stronger than Namek Freeza, except for Trunks and...

Ah, thanks Hitiro! I knew I was missing something. Either way, that's Buutenks we were talking, while the comparison was being made to Super Buu.

Janemba is nowhere near the same strength as Super Boo. Goku was outfight frightened at the prospect of taking on Super Boo if he and Vegeta weren't fused together, while SSJ3 Goku was able to hold his against Janemba until Janemba started to use his reality warping powers to gain the advantage. To...

Hiredugarn could be stronger than Janemba, and Goku could have trained to surpass both Mystic Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks. I don't think we have a specific time frame for that movie, so anything could happen. You could paint Gohan's poor performance against Hirudegarn as a situational pay off for his exc...

I don't like the whole Goku is only the #1 Saiyan, because it reeks of pedantry. Shenron made no distinction between Saiyans and Half-saiyans that were necessary to pull off the SSJG ritual, and yet it took place. Don't think too much about the #1 comment, it doesn't mean a thing in the context of s...

I like your thought process, but I would prefer if Potara Fusion was just their power output multiplied by each other, and then by the strongest/weakest fighter. Imagine that their power was 50 times higher than their base (SSJ): 50 * 50 = 2'500, and then 2'500 * 10'000 (Base Goku or Vegeta) = 25'00...

1.6 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku and 1.5625 times weaker than SSJ Gogeta doesn't sound bad at all

Then this Battle of Gods stuff ruined the power consistency. Sort of - I mean, even the JSAT Special implies that Goku and Vegeta are stronger than Gotenks, but for some reason that tends to get ignored. The in-universe logic in Battle of Gods undid around 20 years of fan-theories and official join...

I only have SSJ3 Gotenks 1.6 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku, and Ultimate Gohan 2 times stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. They match my predictions of Buu's power, using symbolic numbers: 8192 - Super Buu w/ Ultimate Gohan 4096 - Super Buu w/ SSJ3 Gotenks 1280 - Ultimate Gohan 1000 - SSJ Gogeta 800 - Jane...

There's a fan fiction-y theory that uses an infinite loop, in which: a) Trunks is allowed to depart to the past and warn Goku, and the Z Fighters win. Meanwhile, Cell kills Trunks, the one who arrived, and goes back in time. b) Cell arrives at the past and develops into Perfect Cell, but gets killed...

1) Only Dai Kaioushin weakened his power. South Kaioushin was established not to have affected him differently than the normal. 3) You're assuming a range of attributes that aren't mentioned or suggested at all. Given that South Kaioushin Buu doesn't fight at any point that we're shown, it's readil...

Statements like this make no sense. It just seems you're blowing off other peoples points with generic comments like "If you can't frame and work with your information." You've been given several reasons as to why your information doesn't really work and you've not really provided anythin...

I appreciate the philosophy and the character analysis, but I'll stick to what I said. If you can't frame and work with your information, just sit back and wait for anyone productive enough to enjoy being nitpicked apart, because I'm leaving this section of the forum. As a last note, the text/calcul...

Hitiro, I see no valuable relationship between those numbers. Most of them are arbitrary (as are mine)... At least establish a good formula and go through with it. By the way, don't you think it's strange that, despite South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin being that strong, the Z sword was never pulled?

No, that doesn't work at all though given everything that's established and shown within the manga. We're initially told through Rou Kaioushin that every time Buu absorbs someone, it results in a form change and an increase in strength. Kibitoshin does not counter or correct this at all, so, at the...

I'm not going to read through all that. Learn to be straighter to the point. In the mean time, I have made up my mind. Buff Buu was only gathering Ki, and losing his suppression to become Kid Buu. Super Buu > Kid Buu > Buff Buu, because Super Buu is the concatenation of two Buus with one Kai each, i...

I only have SSJ3 Gotenks 1.6 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku, and Ultimate Gohan 2 times stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. They match my predictions of Buu's power, using symbolic numbers: 10000 - SSJ2 Vegetto (SSJ2 to the power of 2) 8192 - Super Buu w/ Ultimate Gohan 8000 - SSJ3 Gogeta 4096 - Super Buu w...

I'll just leave a Buu absorption formula here for future reference:

Buu's power * Victim's power / 10 ** (N - 1), where N is the number of digits in Buu's power.

I didn't know you were so resourceful when it came to these theories. Nice! I'll consider another stance then. I'll consider Buff Buu to be equal in terms of Strength to Super Buu, and equal to Kid Buu in terms of Power, with the following numbers:

EDIT: I'll work on POWER and STRENGTH numbers later.

Ki amplifies the user's strength. So why would Buff Boo's strength be lower than Evil Boo's when he is stated to have more Ki? In fact everything is amplified by Ki usually. Akira Toriyama pretty much states this in an interview where he says there are limits to physical training and to surpass thi...