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As much hate as GT gets, its waaay better than having nothing IMO. It wasnt a terrible show...just not what people wanted/expected next. It was almost like a Goku side story. I agree, it's better to have something than nothing at all. Though I hope that if Toriyama stops writing Super they will tel...

The usual downplay going on here. Android 17 is presumably leagues, no worlds above any form of Buu at this point. It has long been indicated that SSJ Goku took on and kept the powers of his ritually powered up red-haired self. This means, SSJ Goku alone should be able to pound any form of SSJ Vege...

So a random forum poster on Kanzenshuu (who is obviously biased to his favorite character Android 17) is more accurate? Where else would you go to state facts about SSJB? Kanzenshuu is run by Dragon Ball fans who pride themselves on only providing the most accurate information. This information is ...

Uuuuh NOPE that's PURE HEADCANON ! if Goku wanted to use ssj2 against 17 he would've done just like he did with Gohan but Goku knew ssb was the right choice to keep up with a suppressed 17 not even a full powered one. Although the true nature of how SSJB works remains a mystery, I think we've seen ...

Uuuuh NOPE that's PURE HEADCANON ! if Goku wanted to use ssj2 against 17 he would've done just like he did with Gohan but Goku knew ssb was the right choice to keep up with a suppressed 17 not even a full powered one. From http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan_Blue "The form pushes the...

Considering Goku pulled out SSJB to fight him, yeah, I'd place Android about a few notched above SSJ3 Goku. SSJB can vary anywhere from SSJ2 level to full power god level depending on how much the user chooses to suppress their power. Uuuuh NOPE that's PURE HEADCANON ! if Goku wanted to use ssj2 ag...

Both 17 and gohan are around the same tier of power who's superior is anyone's guess and we'll need to see by the end of it but both are around blue level that can't be denied Using toshio statements isn't wise considering in a response to who would win in a fight between golden Frieza and 17 he sa...

Lord Beerus wrote:Considering Goku pulled out SSJB to fight him, yeah, I'd place Android about a few notched above SSJ3 Goku.

SSJB can vary anywhere from SSJ2 level to full power god level depending on how much the user chooses to suppress their power.

There would be a heck ton of tension If It was Movie Toei Goku in there instead of Modern Toei Goku, trust me. He'd be taking everything serious, yet he'd be concerned over all the other innocent people / universes getting erased and try to prevent it. He'd shout "NO, DON'T DO IT XENO!" A...

Is U6/U7 vs everyone else? Because it seems like it. Are there any ring outs that other universes have done so far? Or even off screen ones? Doesn't seem like much of a battle royale if its 2 universes vs everyone else

I don't believe Kale is ssb level, hell she prob isn't even Broly level. Maybe those characteristics they share, them being tanks are what give them a false sense of power in terms of what we see as an audience. Did she tank a ssb Goku using Kamehameha? Sure, but did Goku hold back? For certain, ev...

It just occurred to me that if Goku said he was using only a "little" more of his power against Kale compared to his prior state as a Super Saiyan 2, a Super Saiyan Blue Goku that's holding back could possess a level of strength ranging anywhere from Super Saiyan 3 to God level. This is f...

Times Goku held back: - against Krillin in the 22nd TB - against Tenshinhan in the 22nd TB - against Tenshinhan in the 23rd TB - against Piccolo in the 23rd TB - against Nappa on Earth - against Ginyu on Namek - against Future Trunks - against Yakon - against Majin Vegeta - against Fat Buu - agains...

Basically, I see it as one of Super Saiyan 2's grades. The Cell Saga Gohan one is Grade 1; the manga Trunks vs. SS3 Goku in the Zamasu arc is Grade 2; 'My Bulma' Vegeta is Grade 3; Super Saiyan Rage is Grade 4. Yeah but this is also stupid because these are all completely guesses. I know the SSJ1 f...

I think you misunderstand. No one actually thinks SSB is weaker , Super has had this weird habit lately of having Goku do really well in normal SSJ forms then somehow doing slightly worse in SSB form. Latest example is SSB vs LSSJ Kale. Now I know goku wasn't really putting his full effort during t...

Super Saiyan 4 was a stupid looking form that made no sense at all. Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue have simplistic designs with slight changes just as was the case with pretty much all the other forms. Super Saiyan was just his hair standing up and turning a different colour. In Vegeta's ca...

No my opinion hasn't changed at all. Both SSG and SSB are still just awful recoloured transformations that had little to no thought put into them. SSJ4 has and always will be the superior transformation compared to them. Maybe this new form that Goku will achieve will actually be good and not just ...

In terms of popularity, Goku >> Vegeta = Gohan (+Hype) = Freeza (+Hype) > Piccolo > Android 17 (+Hype) > Android 18 > Krillin > Tenshinhan > Kame-sennin which also just so happens to be the power-scale in how I interpret it (with the exception of Krillin being possibly more popular in Japan than 18...

Well if that's the case then I'd have to disagree with you, while gt was certainly not good, gt wrote the characters more closely to the dbz series and took into consideration character progression that certain characters(vegeta) had near the end of z. While super writes regressed flanderized caric...

Kiss isn't required for reproduction, it's highly likely both of them didn't know it's a thing.. It's not odd from their perspective if you think about it as well, why suck on each other's tongue if it's not required to get the job done? I'm gonna be honest what you just typed was utterly stupid. I...