Kanzenshuu

To those talking about how fast Goku fights, Herucle and the cameramen were following Goku vs Cell and (the H-word) and Dende were following the Kid Buu fight. They weren't able to follow. The fight, they were able to comment and react towhat looked like people going invisible and then suddenly rea...

Looks like they updated the cover artwork of the limited release. Looks pretty slick. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91H56bRADSL._SL1500_.jpg This is nit picky of me, I know, but It really bothers me that one of the covers is of ssj Goku when he never took on that form in the movie. In fact,...

http://zasshi.news.yahoo.co.jp/article?a=20150810-00010004-otapolz-ent japan article.. Even with google translate I can tell there's serious levels of unhappiness. I really can't blame anyone for being disappointed with this episode. 1) Yes, it's a short fight, but it's the focus of the entire epis...

In my opinion, we shouldn't be surprised that Gohan is where he's at. "But only 5 years!" Uhhhh Actually it's been a lot longer that he's been slacking. He hasn't trained since his days with Goku in the HBTC... Sure, he did become ultra powerful in the Buu saga, but if you don't maintain t...

Yep. Plus, even if his 1.3 million prediction was just for his 1st form (which is nonsensical; his 1st form is an artifical shell specifically created to suppress power, why would he want to make it stronger?), then that still means 1.3 million is considered SS2-tier in this movie. Since 1st form F...

Ehhhh I mean it's not that weird, I don't think Frieza really "knew" anything about the relevent power levels in the universe. He simply doesn't operate that way, he can't even sense ki. He operates on confidence, if he FEELS stronger than someone else, or how he could imagine someone else...

Ah so now Gohan is even weaker than when he was a small child. Also a power level of 1.3 million was for some reason worth mentioning in a conversation where he'd just been told Goku had defeated Buu. Frieza who often refered to himself as the strongest being in the universe and can't sense/evaluat...

Freeza in his first form with a power level of 1.3 million stopped Gohan's heart with one blow? Yes. You saw it happen on screen. I'm sorry you don't like it. Ehhh, I seriously doubt that's what we saw on screen... He never said that's what his base form ended up being, just what he predicted it wo...

Ehhh I suppose it's true that he was completely unaware of what he was capable of accomplishing and if he genuinely believed that Goku only beat him the first time because he was caught off guard, then maybe he genuinely believed that Goku was his inferior and that he couldn't have become more than ...

I almost have as hard a time believing that frieza would use a "common laser" as a contingency plan, as the fact that the plan worked ... Anyways, was it just me or did Frieza say that he'd reach a power level of 1.3 million? That's even lower than he was before... Did he say "billion...

Was the "common laser" line from the dub actually in the original script?... I mean, the whole "contingency, super ultimate, laser" theory was hard enough to swallow... but suggesting that it's on par with the lazer roshi tanked... Holy freaking balls... How "off guard"...

How about the very thing people have been arguing about here for the last few pages (Sorbet's laser)? Ugh, do we know how powerful that lazer was? Because from what I know it's completely ambiguous... If there's no other feats for the lazer how does it contradict anything established??? Sorbet's ri...

One could say that both Goku and Superman are no more or less tough than the plot demands they be. Really? What outliers can you think of off the top of your head for Goku? I can think of more than 10 for superman and that's with a pretty limited knowledge of the character. The only PIS power I can...

One could say that both Goku and Superman are no more or less tough than the plot demands they be. Really? What outliers can you think of off the top of your head for Goku? I can think of more than 10 for superman and that's with a pretty limited knowledge of the character. The only PIS power I can...

This Broly vs superman.

Iono man, it's close but personally, I gotta go with broly on this one, I mean, just by way of character concept.

We a have an entire thread that's hundreds of pages long, talking, in depth, about each episode that comes out, before it has been made legally accessible to the majority of the commenters... Let's be real, the closest thing you got to this in the pre GT release was "did you hear there's a gold...

DBZ combat speed is FTL FTL attacks = infinite mass punch in DC And infinite mass punch is one of the flash's AND superman's ultimate weapons. Lifting strength doesn't mean much when it comes to impact force in comics. The flash can't lift very much but he's knocked out some of DC's most durable fig...

For anyone interested, here are some good reads on the subject... Combat Speed of Dragon Ball Characters How Fast are Dragon Ball Characters Dbz Characters are FTL My favorite, but not without its flaws, a super analysis of both characters: Death Battle Erred: Goku vs Superman Or, rather than readi...

For anyone interested, here are some good reads on the subject...

Combat Speed of Dragon Ball Characters

How Fast are Dragon Ball Characters

Dbz Characters are FTL

My favorite, but not without its flaws, a super analysis of both characters:

Death Battle Erred: Goku vs Superman

And again, by that logic. By saying "Because Goku can dodge attacks like these!" that means EVERYONE in Z is fighting FTL speeds. It's slippery slope logic. Like I said before and like many in this thread have said before me saying it. There isn't enough consistent numbers on either side ...