Kanzenshuu

"How dare you bring people back to life like death means nothing. In my universe, we bring the dead back to life it means nadda! Honestly, I'm worried about the exact opposite; That he is going to internalize how meaningless death is, and start... cutting loose a little. Like "Fine. Maybe...

Poor Nappa... Doesn't Gohan realize he did all that while under Babidi's control? Why isn't he punishing Badidi instead?

EDIT: Credit to Darrieloni for creating this:

Juxtaposition is a heck of a thing:

miguelnuva1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:20 pm Can someone pust a sad or confused face on Vegetto.

Absolutely! Credits to... whoever made this!

My favorite image thus far (credits to Argelios):

The Gohan torso and legs are what make it .

And then Salagir added in all the bad times he quit on her while she was growing up. Yes. Because now he's trying to make us turn on Vegetto. He wants us to like Bra, and this is the only trick he's got left. Obi-Wan never have up on Anakin till he saw Vader with him own eyes, Vegetto quits the fir...

Vegetto threatened Pan because Gohan wouldn't fight him and he sucked as Bra's Dad. Who knows what else Salagir will put on him. He thought of doing that, then promptly nipped it in the bud—as adults do. See the huge problem with this example, Obi-Wan saw Anakin do all this and he still thought the...

Imagine Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith. Anakin massacres all the children, and all the Jedi. Obi-Wan insists Anakin would not fall to the Dark Side, until he sees the recording. He finds Anakin, beats him, and is about to end it... Then Yoda shuts off his lightsaber, and lifts him into the air. &quo...

Matches Malone wrote: ↑Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:18 am It was established from day one that anyone who dies within the tournament will be brought back, so technically speaking, all is well.

Perfect! Vegetto can kill Bra, then bring her back once he's sure she'll behave. All is well.

...That logic goes both ways, is what I'm saying.

Fionordequester, you hit the nail on the head, too: “Bra is the face of DBM; She is to Salagir what Goku was to Toriyama.” Thx :) . Umm... Sure, Gotenks. Bra was taken by surprise, so she's not technically responsible. But there's just one tinsy little problem... Babidi's magic only works on people...

"You wanted his control, that's why you never obeyed him." ... What? Maybe the translator missed a few words? I mean, its not factually wrong. But out of context, it would make no sense. I get what the translator was trying to say, but it could have been worded differently. It winds up so...

I'm just curious as to how Gotenks knew she was caught by surprise, personally. Perhaps the same way Bra knew about Cell's nucleus?

No, Bra could've been a really amazing character with these exact same plot beats, under someone who knew how to do moral ambiguity. Unfortunately, Salagir's idea of "ambiguity" seems to be what Vince McMahon's always wrote. "100% evil and nasty one moment"... https://lpix.org/39...

Salagir does an interview on Twitch. He answers mostly in French, but answers a few questions in English, too (Ex: What was the purpose of the Majin Rebellion, and why people hate Bra):

https://dbmenglish.freeforums.net/threa ... -on-twitch

It's like disciplining a dog, really. You want the punishment to come immediately, not after they've already forgotten about it. It's a shame the story went how it did, from that perspective.

...This doesn't even feel like a story anymore. It's more like one of those gags, where different characters tell completely different versions of the same event. We're gonna cut to the two in a therapist's office, with Bra having just told her version of the story; Then Vegetto's gonna tell his OWN...

miguelnuva1 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:51 am That's apples and oranges. A fictional character being dead is still different from a fictional parent abusing their kid.

Like I said you don't have to have zero reaction, I'm just saying seeing Vegetto do that is jarring.

Indeed.

RandomGuy96 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:56 am Vegetto's face in the last image is decent reaction image material.

Try this on:



We call it "Bojacking".

miguelnuva1 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:17 pm Poorly written doesn't change that a parent beating their child is f*cked up.

It's emotional shielding. We refuse to be manipulated, so we try to shut down what would be our normal emotional response.

That's the big whole, yes. I'm just not sure how else Salagir would resolve things, without either of them being ruined as characters. The way things are going now, Bra is either going to keep being a hate sink, or Vegetto's going to be made to look like the bad guy (even though that's nonsense).