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I'm not a fan of using GT or even Super to explain events in DB. GT uses filler for its stories and Super contradicts Z whenever it feels like it. I honestly thought they would do that in the arc though, saying the shadow dragons caused namek's climate change.

300 stones and no luck. See others get it in the first multi. good luck.

They would have used the dragonballs before the androids showed up if it could be done. Vegeta can come back but he wouldn't be any stronger.

Maybe we'd get SSJ5 instead. Just a little rewriting and it can be the big scary power Beerus is seeking.

Really? I always thought they were shipping her with Trunks.

You can google plenty of fan fiction on them.

Goku wouldn't be able to come back even with the namek dragonballs. Vegeta was in hell without a body so he'd be unable to train. The only shot they would have is Piccolo fusing. That even isn't likely to work.

Another consequence of making Goku a child. At times it even seemed like they were shipped as a couple.

That depends on if the androids were actually giving it their all against him or not. The way 17 notes they weren't even using half before they easily killed him leads me to think they weren't. I'm still not sure the future ones actually were weaker or just the present ones not interested in torturi...

I don't see future 17 and 18 sitting tight for that to happen though. Piccolo and Kami fusing would probably be their only real shot and I have doubts about that even. Even if he were about equal to 17 as his present counterpart, these androids won't give a fair fight.

Pan and Bulla come to mind since there hadn't been any major saiyan females in focus up until then.

There weren't any dragonballs around to use since they revived him and the ones killed on namek and then wished them to earth. Vegeta saw Goku as a SSJ after his revival and his focus shifted to that in a universe where Frieza no longer controlled him.

They wouldn't stand a chance. Gohan was the only one able to stay alive and keep fighting and 17 said he hadn't even used half his power on Gohan before he killed him. I know Trunks claimed he could fight them to an extent, but I think the above statement indicates the future androids' sadistic natu...

It's a good team especially if you can put LR Kale and Caulifla with the Ribriannes. I ended up winning universe survival with a reps of universe 7 team instead though. Just androids and future to go.

Piccolo isn't the main character. Replace Piccolo with Tien, Krillin, or Yamcha. Even Gohan could fill in and your point wouldn't alter much.

It's hard to build a long lasting arc around that. The point is that the next villain has to seem impossible to overcome and the stakes higher than before. What you're talking about is basically Revival of F where Goku and Vegeta just had to outlast Frieza. The arc had to extend itself by delving in...

Giant form was actually easier than I thought since the transformations did all the heavy lifting for me.

I got transformation boost out of the way. Giant form I have plenty of characters they just aren't ready for the event. Androids, I just seem to get unlucky and everybody supers all at once. Universe survival, I tried a peppy gals run and it just stiffs me on Ribrianne friend and I don't have SSBKK ...

I still have androids, transformation boost, giant form, universe survival, and future saga to go. Even with good units, rng has not been in my favor.

Frieza after achieving his golden form and besting destructive energy would be a good candidate since he has no attachments like Goku and Vegeta.

Maybe an alternate Goku that's broken mentally. Let's say he never turned super saiyan and Frieza ended up blowing up namek, killing the others and Goku barely made it out in a ginyu ship. Frieza beats him to earth and blows it up and Goku is forced to journey through space to find a new planet to l...