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- Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:31 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Actually in the anime, it was Zamasu who asked Black to fused after he nearly got sealed in the Evil Containment Wave. Black got more powerful and was handling Goku and Vegeta with his clones. That and that really makes no sense to assume "fused Zamasu wouldn't be that far above Vegeta" g...
- Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:01 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero Box Office Thread
- Replies: 496
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero Box Office Thread
I think the main problem is they truly dont know what to do with the characters anymore so thats why they are constantly relying on nostalgia baits,Toriyama could have come up with different kind of monster but he settled with CELL, Gohan again have to see piccolo going down for reaching new form ,...
- Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:57 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39974
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The Gammas are compared to Goku and Vegeta right? And we all deduced it's with them using Super Saiyan Blue right? Wouldn't this confirm Goku and Vegeta didn't get stronger in their regular forms during the ToP since Gohan is able to fight Gamma 1? I never thought they got stronger in the ToP. I'm ...
- Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:58 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39974
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
And even in Toriyama’s version without the extended Blue forms, Goku was called basically a God of Destruction in just Blue by the producer of Broly. That and even years later Goku called Jiren’s power overwhelming. In short, this suggests that Toriyama sees Blue as being as strong as SSBE and Blue...
- Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:40 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
I'm all for a new take just so long as it's a good take. I think the idea behind Cell Max would have been one thing if it wasn't related to Cell at all but it is. Taking a popular villain, redoing him with his worst appearance and making it a Kaiju is not something I think fans would have wanted fr...
- Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:59 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39974
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
I'm glad the novel confirmed this for all to see: That overwhelmingly powerful Jiren... In truth, when it comes to power itself, the gap between him and us is not that big." "Huh?" Goku could not believe the words that Vegeta had just muttered. It was unfathomable that there was no d...
- Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:49 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
It really doesn’t work, imo, because Goku simply doesn’t have a history of losing focus after an emotional shock. The closest he came was going Super Saiyan and Krillin’s first death. Heck, Goku kept his head together after both of his sons and Earth got blown up by Buu. That and UI isn’t about hav...
- Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:17 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
The long story short of all of this that a retcon happened and you have to jump through hoops to explain why using Signs is a good idea after the last arc called it an unstable energy drained and Goku shouldn’t have an emotional clash when he controlled himself after he witnessed his latest mentor ...
- Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:35 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
tl;dr Toyo retconned his previous arc because he needed to nerf Goku and wants Sign to be the focus for whatever reason Level of discourse this month: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVgPTf7VsAYqjJF?format=png&name=360x360 I don’t have an issue with ‘lower’ forms making comebacks, although Super Sa...
- Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:27 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Level of discourse this month: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVgPTf7VsAYqjJF?format=png&name=360x360 I don’t have an issue with ‘lower’ forms making comebacks, although Super Saiyan God really didn’t need to come back. Toyo was the one who called Signs an unstable form with horrible stamina. He c...
- Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:08 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Because he hates himself at that point. There are multiple panels of him looking at the fear the Sugarians view him with once they crash into the city in shock. He realizes he's become exactly the brute he thinks of the Saiyans as being. Vegeta's feeling equally as guilty having come up against Gra...
- Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:29 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
The biggest one is that despite saying that he wants revenge against Frieza he wasted a bunch of time beating up Goku and Vegeta despite all the evidences that they didn't work for Frieza. Instead of listening to Oatmeal, Granolah took him off and bragged about how he's now the 'strongest in the un...
- Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:55 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Given what happened in Super Hero what Old Kai says really doesn’t matter. Broly is among the strongest and he transforms. Overall, Dragon Ball has never pushed that no transformation was the right way. That's true but I was thinking now Whis said Goku could use UI in his lower forms or something l...
- Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:39 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Or he will master it in base when Toriyama goes with it, that is what it seems they are going with, given Whis' comment. Which is funny because that makes the white transformation kind of like Sign, making Sign redundant. At least in the anime, and until now in the manga, where it seems to be also ...
- Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:32 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Since Toriyama didn't design Omen, he probably wouldn't care how it's used. Toyotaro might have Goku reuse it until Toriyama decides for Goku to fully master UI. It's weird the manga already has him transform into UI at will but I guess he'll forget by the time Toriyama intends for it to happen. Or...
- Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:51 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero Box Office Thread
- Replies: 496
- Views: 63238
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero Box Office Thread
I do wonder where that idea came from. The 25 most expensive animated movies from Hollywood were all CGI. In anime, the most expensive non-Ghibli films were also CGI and one of those was Toei's most expensive film. I don't know where the idea that CGI is cheaper originated unless it's like using te...
- Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:47 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Since Toriyama didn't design Omen, he probably wouldn't care how it's used. Toyotaro might have Goku reuse it until Toriyama decides for Goku to fully master UI. It's weird the manga already has him transform into UI at will but I guess he'll forget by the time Toriyama intends for it to happen. Si...
- Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:19 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
I fail too see how he was unsympathetic The biggest one is that despite saying that he wants revenge against Frieza he wasted a bunch of time beating up Goku and Vegeta despite all the evidences that they didn't work for Frieza. Instead of listening to Oatmeal, Granolah took him off and bragged abo...
- Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:05 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero Box Office Thread
- Replies: 496
- Views: 63238
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero Box Office Thread
Can you tell us if the movie is doing better than BOG in comparison based on these estimates ? It won't be doing as well no. Battle of Gods would have been at ¥1.35 billion by the Friday. Whereas Super Hero is around ¥935 million. It's not all a fair comparison though because the Monday to Friday a...
- Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:01 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 225
- Views: 29393
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 85 - Official Discussion Thread
Remember when this arc was about Granolah and his grudge on Saiyans/Frieza I wish it stayed that way. He had an actually good design, strong motivation, cool techniques. Then Monaito came with his Bardock-glorifying backstory and he made 180 turn immediately. Sigh. Granolah was honestly boring too ...