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Gohan is getting weaker? Says who? He just lost his Mystic form. He still his is Z sword self. I don't think so. RoF SSJ Gohan is probably weaker or the same level as CG SSJ Goku. We can see that he doubts at first about being able or not transform into a Super Saiyan. It's like he regressed very m...

Couple questions for you guys: - How big of a rage boost do you think Vegeta got when he attacked Beerus? - How do you guys fit in SSJ Gohan one-shotting Shisami, who was even with Piccolo. Gohan is getting weaker, and Piccolo is possibly getting a couple increases. Do you think SSJ Gohan was that ...

I don't even have SSJ Gotenks stronger. Until the RoSaT that is.

New matches: - Shisami (DBS) x 2nd Form Freeza (Namek) - Tagoma (DBS) x Mr. Boo - SSJ3 Gotenks x 3rd to Final Form Freeza (RoF) - SSJ Gohan (Boo Arc) x SSJ Goten & SSJ Trunks (Pre RoSaT) Even 1st Form Freeza murders. Mr. Buu wins with ease. I don't see Tagoma as SSJ3 tier. Freeza would need his...

There's zero reason to have Roshi stronger than his offical 180 BP in this version. He fought equally with Freeza's soldiers. The weaker ones I can remember were those guys that were killed by Kuririn and Gohan, immediately after they arrived on Namek. You can choose to believe the soldiers are tha...

Let's compare the Boo Arc Super Saiyans, in equal forms. If Cell Games Gohan was a 10, how strong would theses guys be? Gohan (Boo Arc): 10 --> 10.3 [25th TB] --> 15 [Z sword] Goten and Trunks (pre RoSaT): Goten: 7.6 ---> 8 [25th TB], Trunks: 8 --> 8.3 [25th TB] Goten and Trunks (post RoSaT): Goten...

There's zero reason to have Roshi stronger than his offical 180 BP in this version.

According to Gohan in the NEP, Tagoma is as strong as him then he further powers up (The NEP shows Ginyu here). I can't wait. Stupid. Really Stupid. Going from SSJ3 Tier to a weakened Super Saiyan. Gohan was much stronger at the beginning of the Buu saga. It's obvious Gohan lost his Ultimate form.

According to Gohan in the NEP, Tagoma is as strong as him then he further powers up (The NEP shows Ginyu here).

I can't wait.

If I could I would put them in the 1,000's but I doubt Spopovitch could suppress himself that much.

Both Yamu and Spopovitch displayed Ki feats superior to BoZ Goku and Piccolo. No, I'm talking about Kid Goku from BoDB that you guys said is below Yamu and Spopovich. I'm not even considered compare they to Goku and Piccolo in BoZ, how they displayed superior Ki feats than the duo? Can BoZ Goku or ...

where would you guys put this people up -Kid Goku(Beginning of Dragon Ball): 10 -Yamcha(Fist Appearance): 9 -Videl(Pre Ki Training): 7 -Videl(Post Ki Training): 20 -Mr.Satan: 6.66 -Spopovich: 36 -Yamu: 40 -Jewel: 6.25 -Ranfan: 14 -Punter: 6 -Killer: 5.75 -Blonde Launch: 5 -Mighty Mask(The real one)...

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Krillin (@ Freeza) vs. Kaioken Goku (@ Ginyu)

Even normal Goku wins.

A couple of fights here: - SSJ Future Trunks vs. Piccolo at the Cell Games. - SSJ Future Trunks (vs. Imperfect Cell) vs. Piccolo (Buu arc). - SSJ Son Goten vs. Shisami. - Jaco vs. Tarble. - Videl & Mr. Satan (25th Budokai) vs. Spopovich. - Piccolo, Tenshinhan, Krillin & Yamcha vs. 3 Namekia...

I really hope a future guidebook clarifies SSGSS multiplier.

As of right now I have it at 10 times SBG. I just can't ignore Goku surviving going into the core of Beerus attack and actually destroying it, it also gives plenty of space for Golden Freeza, base Goku and Vegeta.

Didn't Whis compared their base power to a tree and Beeru's to his tower?

No he's not. He's nowhere near SSG level, as even a half-dead Golden Freeza who couldn't do ANYTHING to a worn out SSGSS Goku with clean hits to the face still laughed at the idea that base Vegeta could stand a chance against him. All that just mean that SSGSS & Golden Freeza are much stronger ...

Wait so Yakon does have an official BP of 40,000,000. Ugh, I'm really tempted to use it but then he will be half of Goku's strength. :think: Goku only transformed to a Super Saiyan becuae he wanted to see, not because Yakon was to strong. 40 million would fit well here. Not with Gohan wanting to te...

Wait so Yakon does have an official BP of 40,000,000.

Ugh, I'm really tempted to use it but then he will be half of Goku's strength.

Black [Battle Jacket] vs Tao Pai Pai.
Murasaki vs Yamcha [21st TB].