Kanzenshuu

1) Broly movie Veku Who can the fat fusion(or even the skinny one, if there's any difference) defeat from DBZ? 2) How about a EoZ version of Veku, with the fusees at their strongest? is there any major fighter they could take out even if they screw it up? Can they beat Namek Freeza or even the andr...

Anyway. It's nice to see Beerus and Whis confirm that Goku's current MUI is his strongest state of UI and it is NOT TUI. It's nice to see Goku essentially confirm that first before they even said anything. It is also funny seeing how mad this has some people lol The chapter also confirms Goten and ...

I do have to say that I did see plenty of people who were angry at the leaks showing Beast Gohan on par with UI Goku. On Twitter (mostly the spanish speakers, I know since I am spanish speaker myself), most of them complained at how illogical it was for a random power up like Beast being able to re...

But yeah the people who kept claiming Gohan Beast was weaker than Moro Arc SSB and current SSB are awfullllllly quiet right now :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: This was a thing? :eh: From what I’ve seen the most common assumption around here is that Gohan was relative to SSB in Ultimate and to Ultra Instin...

Beerus confirmed this chapter that

Since we were talking about tier lists, this is how I view things currently. Blue Fusions Broly Beerus Freeza ~ Gohan Cell Max ~ Gas Goku ~ Vegeta ~ Piccolo Granolah Moro Jiren Gammas Merged Zamasu Kefla Android 17 Beerus has gotten stronger since the ToP. Broly hasn't since he just started his tra...

https://i.imgur.com/SiXOqCJ.jpg What's the general consensus on this line from Beerus, again? Is it enough to explain why he's always ahead of everyone regardless of the amount of power they gain? Or is this Beerus the same as he was during the GoD battle royale It's one of Toyo's rare instances of...

Super Heroes did a fantastic idea of Goku Black traveling to parallel worlds and fighting the Gokus from them to perfect his body. I would love that to be canon. Fused Zamasu is too broken to bring back. You will have to seal him or repeat the same outcome from his arc. Maybe he lost his immortality...

I'm looking for opinions on this so how strong would you have these guys on the Mecha Freeza arc? Son Goku: -- Super Saiyan: Future Trunks: -- Super Saiyan: Freeza [Mecha]: King Cold: Vegeta: Piccolo: Son Gohan: Krillin: Tenshinhan: Yamcha: Chiaotzu: P.S. Using the official power levels (150 millio...

Why is this such a big deal? He was wearing the Time Ring before becoming Infinite Zamasu. Who's to say he didn't just merge with the thing and that granted him the ability to affect multiple timelines? Sure, that isn't stated anywhere, but neither is it stated that he could do that stuff because o...

Oh, you are spot on with this manga wise. This is just a progressive Dragonball narrative fact. However, Goku, Vegeta and Piccolo surpassing Jiren in movie land is suspect tho. Broly is stronger than Jiren in movie continuity too tho. Goku already surpassed Jiren at the ToP. Super Hero is 3 years a...

1) I would add Infinite Zamasu just underneath Zeno and put Super Shenron equal to the later. 2) Gohan is stronger than Goku and Vegeta. 3) Piccolo is on par with Goku and Vegeta. 4) Cell Max is stronger than Goku and Vegeta. 5) Gamma 2's attack should be one tier below Cell Max. 6) SSB Vegetto was...

How do we see the top fighters in relation to the other gods of destruction, meaning aside from Beerus who is clearly still the strongest? I was just reading the pre-ToP stuff the other day and saw the part where goku went ssg against toppo, and one of the GoD's said he was already at their level. ...

Wait, for real? Awesome, I always wondered how strong Future Vegeta was. Yeah. Even Vegeta, whose ability was on par with Goku, is defeated by the artificial humans! It's weird though because in the OVA Gohan thinks he can beat the androids both times, but I guess he just didn't know how strong Veg...

the Grand Priest has absolutely NO Multiversal showing whatsoever. He erased Merus, who was located in another universe. It wouldn’t be a stretch to say this skill can reach any place in the multiverse. Yes, it would be a massive stretch. Erasing one person means that he can erase the entire Multiv...

It's not definitive how Zeno and Super Shenron compare until more is revealed about Zalama. For instance, if Toriyama asspulls that Zalama is the true ruler or whatever, then you could argue that Super Shenron's magic is comparable or superior to Zeno's. As it stands now, both Zeno and Super Shenro...

Have two years really passed since end of Granolah to now? That sounds strange. Pan is already 3 years old in Super Hero. That puts the movie on Age 783. Going to make my first post here in three years, good to see some familiar faces are still here! I'll be posting a tier list for the top 100 stro...

GreatSaiyaman123 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:19 pm Daizenshuu 6 says Future Vegeta = Future Goku. Future Goku is >= Yardrat Goku, so Vegeta wins.

Wait, for real? Awesome, I always wondered how strong Future Vegeta was.

Currently (Don't know where exactly to put incomplete UI Beerus really) ---UE Beerus Tier--- UE Beerus ---Beerus Tier--- SSB Gogeta ~ SSB Vegito Beerus Black Frieza ~ LSS Broly ~ Beast Gohan ---TUI Goku Tier--- Cell MAX Zombie Gas TUI Goku ~ UE Vegeta ~ Orange Piccolo Granolah --- MUI Goku Tier--- ...

It's incredibly ambiguous wording that's for sure. I take it to mean his base form overtook Vegeta but not Goku, considering it's a picture of his base form. The statement can't be about base Gotenks since it would contradict itself as he would just need to turn Super Saiyan to surpass Vegeta and n...