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I find myself in agreement; had Kafla used regular SSJ1 and SSJ2, I believe she would have been no match for a restored SSJ Blue Gokū, and it surely must have been SSJL1 and SSJL2 that enabled to match and even exceed SSJ Blue Gokū when using the Kaiōken, as well as not be instantly annihilated by ...

Very true about the weakened SSGod Goku and then using a presumably full power SSBlue. :/ I, sadly, don't have an answer for that. I do really appreciate that they had Goku and Champa say he was still recovering stamina during Base Kefla vs. SSGod Goku. This allows for Full Power SSGod Goku to stil...

Oh, I see what you're proposing here. Based on the old theory that came up in the previous thread, with Kale, her "Super Saiyan" was Super Saiyan Proper, and her "Super Saiyan 2" was Super Saiyan Legend (thing here is that Kale's SS Legend and theoretical SS Legend 2 would have ...

I like this reasoning a lot, and I'm in agreement for the most part. The only thing part of your statement I would disagree with is the placement of KK relative to SSJL1 Kafla; given that SSJL2 Kafla would be twice as powerful as SSJL1 Kafla, if SSJL2 Kafla exceeds Gokū's SSJB KKx20, then SSJL1 Kaf...

Didn't we (sort of) figure this out? Hey, TheShadowEmperor8055, I hate to bother you. I just wanted your opinion on this. I think I have finally parsed out everything. I apologize for the inconvenience this causes you. -------------------------------------------------------- SS1 Vegito is between S...

Base Kefla could actually be around Base Vegito with this method, and the narrative makes a point to suggest Goku IS tired. That's not possible. Base Kale and base Caulifla are much weaker than base Goku and base Vegeta, thus Kefla's base form should much weaker than Vegetto's base form. Okay, fair...

Yes, I agree on this. Given how Goku/Vegeta/Gohan and Cabba/Caulifla/Kale generally have close Base powers, Base Vegito and Base Kefla should be equal. SS1 Vegito is between SS3 Goku and SSGod Goku, but SS1 Kefla is close to SSBlue Goku. How does this make sense? My theory was as follows: during DB...

I'm still not entirely certain as to how Kafla's transformations work, given how absurdly powerful she became. If we compare Kafla to Vegetto, given how much Cabba, Caulifla, and Kale have seemingly gained on Gokū, Gohan-kun, and Vegeta, they should be approximately equal in the same forms, i.e. SS...

We don't know if its a combination, all we know is that its just Kefla's Super Saiyan, thats the name given in the show and in DBHeroes too. It doesn't have a specific name if thats what you are looking for. Hmmmm, so I am making a graphic of Super Saiyan forms, like I said. Do you believe I should...

Kefla's form is just regular Super Saiyan (its mentioned in the show by Whis iirc) with green hair, so its Kefla SSJ/SSJ2. Like, would Kefla's SS1 form be a combination of Kale's Controlled Berserker and Caulifla's SS1? We don't know if its a combination, all we know is that its just Kefla's Super ...

Hi everyone! So I had a quick question about Kale and Kefla that I was unsure about. I should probably mention that the reason I am asking about this is because I am making a graphic of all the Saiyan transformations and their strengths. In Episode 114, Kale unlocks a Controlled Berserker form (the...

BrolyKale wrote:Kefla's form is just regular Super Saiyan (its mentioned in the show by Whis iirc) with green hair, so its Kefla SSJ/SSJ2.

Like, would Kefla's SS1 form be a combination of Kale's Controlled Berserker and Caulifla's SS1?

Hi everyone! So I had a quick question about Kale and Kefla that I was unsure about. I should probably mention that the reason I am asking about this is because I am making a graphic of all the Saiyan transformations and their strengths. In Episode 114, Kale unlocks a Controlled Berserker form (the ...

Hey, everyone! So I have been very busy for the past month or so. I am curious. What is the consensus on how strong main characters are as of now? Could someone include people like SSB Vegito, UI Goku, Jiren, SS2 Kefla, SSG Goku, Ultimate Gohan, Android 17, SSBerserker Kale, Beerus, Whis, Toppo, Mer...

So, this theory people are mentioning of merging all Erased Universes with Universe 7... If this happens wouldn't that be the End of New Powerful Villains ? There would be no villain powerful enough to defeat all Fighters. UI Goku, UI Vegeta ( UI Vegito ), Jiren, Hit, Toppo, Saiyans and many more. ...

*snip* *snip* I removed the Majin SSFP and Majin SS2. I was going to add Kefla's Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 forms to my tree as well. https://i.imgur.com/hsuqVlo.jpg I was not sure how to do this: 1) Either have a branch from SSFP and the Controlled Berserker come in the middle to be Super Sai...

*snip* *snip* I removed the Majin SSFP and Majin SS2. I was going to add Kefla's Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 forms to my tree as well. https://i.imgur.com/hsuqVlo.jpg I was not sure how to do this: 1) Either have a branch from SSFP and the Controlled Berserker come in the middle to be Super Sai...

I think Rosè is much more meaningful because it was something exclusive to Saiyans, while the Majin mark was something every Babidi minion had. Rosè is also very different as it is an entirely new color and hair style, and the manga suggested it was the true godly version of Super Saiyan Blue. Maji...

Okay, so ... if you were to give entries a - f explicit names how does this sound? Not sure if there is much point in properly naming them as we won't be seeing most of them again. That is so weird ... they should not be fusing when they were Super Saiyans. ... Hmmmmm, well, the only thing I can th...

Thanks man! You could try adding one or two more bangs and see how it turns out. In my opinion the picture you just posted looks better :lol: The one in your tree looks a little weird, and is also uncorrect. For what has been shown, UI Goku's hair isn't much different from his normal hair. You also...