Kanzenshuu

Techniques can be improved. They can be useful against certain people anyway. Piccolo already used the multi form technique against Frost in the tournament. He used the afterimage. It definitely looks like the multi form technique to me. The multi-form clones are actually real, they don't just vani...

What the hell is Super Saiyan Ikari? Super Saiyan Rage(the tranformation Trunks got), maybe Toei would finally bother in explaining what is it and how Gohan will get it. :think: Oh, ok. Why'd you call it Ikari then? lol Ikari is the Japanese name, and some people are using it because abbreviating S...

Why is it bad for mortals to disrespect gods, but it's fine for Zamasu to defy Zeno? 1) That's the way things work. Mortals were created by the Gods and live in a Universe created by the Gods, as such they need to respect the Gods. It's as simple as that; 2) Zamasu defied Zeno because Zeno is an in...

Why is it bad for mortals to disrespect gods, but it's fine for Zamasu to defy Zeno?

Honestly, it should stay way. I don't think any of the main cast should get to Beerus' level. It's about time the likes of Goku and Vegeta hit a glass ceiling. Why is it time? What's so special about this set of gods in particular that the series should abandon its limits can't hold you back theme?...

I enjoy Beerus as a character but it still bothers me how he hasn't been surpassed after all this time. The constant retconning of his power gets annoying and seems very irrelevant knowing that beings like Whis and the Omni-King are beyond Beerus in every way in terms of power. I think that a fight...

Goku and Vegeta surpassing Beerus would kill the show. Why is that? What would be the point of Beerus then? I also like it better that there is always some stronger than them. Beerus is possibly not even a top 20 fighter anymore. There's no reason to keep him as the bar to pass. And new planes of e...

Hit didn't actually say it wouldn't work on him again, Goku did. Hit just said, in effect, that he wasn't about to let him have the opportunity to stop it.

No one knows if the Androids can get stronger. Many fans seem to imply they can't. Kanzenshuu translated an interview that answers that: Q4: Do modified-human types like Artificial Humans No. 17 and No. 18 get stronger if they train? A: Since they’re human-based, of course they can become even stro...

No Goku was only stated to have the advantage of power AFTER he went SSG/SSB. It was never stated as such in his base or SSJ forms, further stamina was not a factor in those lower forms. They specifics state the means Goku uses to overcome the time skip while weaker than Hit was Goku figuring out t...

That's the point I'm making though. Base Goku didn't need to be stronger than Hit in base in order to counter it. But people in this thread are using this as evidence that base Goku is stronger than Hit. It's two different types of countering. Goku first countered it by adjusting his fighting to ac...

Huh? Yamcha beat the Saibaimen as well, the only reason he lost was because he was blinded sided and the thing blew itself up to take them both out. Therefore, he lost. That's still a draw. Well done and congratulations to the Saibaman, but the fact remains that he was otherwise outclassed. DB who ...

I think the above is where people are misinterpreting things. They read it as the time skip ALWAYS works on a weaker opponent which is not what is said. A skilled weaker opponent CAN over come it such as base Goku. All we know is that 10% Vegeta wasn't able to over come it by power alone. Base Goku...

I think the above is where people are misinterpreting things. They read it as the time skip ALWAYS works on a weaker opponent which is not what is said. A skilled weaker opponent CAN over come it such as base Goku. All we know is that 10% Vegeta wasn't able to over come it by power alone. Base Goku...

MagmonKai wrote:I for one hope they're aren't animals at all. To be honest I think it's rather stupid to have beerus and champa be cats in the first place. I want humanoid figures with a few odd balls thrown in. I bet that big fella will be a Botomo type character.

Beerus and Champa are humanoids.

You'd be better off hoping they get a ridiculous powerup than imagining Roshi and Tien tier opponents will be at the tournament.

Edit: Unless it will be a gag.

You don't need god level fighters to outclass the weak Z Fighters. Even mentioning god level in the same sentence gives them too much credit. Ginyu, Freeza or Cell is more like it.

The surprise will apparently be that they're all still weak, since hardly anyone round here seems to think it will happen.

I don't get why people think they will be useless. Power that surpasses or rivals Gods is supposed to be extremely rare within all 12 universe. It's likely each universe has less than a handful of people on that level. It's possible each universe is rounded off "weakly" like that. Tien an...

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Neon Z wrote:None of them aside from Beerus and Champa had visible ears in the group scene, so I don't think they'll be cats.

I don't know man, the one around the 10/11 second mark of this looks like its probably a cat.

That's just Beerus in ceremonial garb.