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by Speedster
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:31 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Was a statement just put out that SSJ3 Goku = Boohan!?
Replies: 70
Views: 11238

Re: Was a statement just put out that SSJ3 Goku = Boohan!?

The post is saying goku is equal to buuhan and Gohan which is impossible considering buuhan is much stronger. You are clearly misunderstanding what is being discussed. Vjump doesn’t state that Buuhan=Gohan. It says that Buu, by absorbing Gohan, gained power equivalent to that of SSJ3 Goku. The word...
by Speedster
Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:15 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Was a statement just put out that SSJ3 Goku = Boohan!?
Replies: 70
Views: 11238

Re: Was a statement just put out that SSJ3 Goku = Boohan!?

V-Jump [February 2019] https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1079579748899016705 HERMS TRANSLATION The Grant Kaioshin was ruler of the four Kaioshins who used to exist. However, he was absorbed by Bibidi’s creation, Majin Buu. Even now he remains inside Majin Buu, and it seems the Galactic Patrol need...
by Speedster
Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:05 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So.. Jiren or Broly, who is stronger?
Replies: 57
Views: 15873

Re: So.. Jiren or Broly, who is stronger?

If we consider that the (non-canon story-wise) Super Dragonball heroes promotional anime episodes are based on the true power scaling logic that Toei has used while working on the canon material then: MUI Goku>>>SSJB KK Vegetto>SSJB Vegetto. For the record below is a 41min video compiling the first ...
by Speedster
Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: 5 cells over 4 timelines.
Replies: 28
Views: 5656

Re: 5 cells over 4 timelines.

Was watching this annoying video again: https://youtu.be/lh58fPJtfR4 According to Qaaman’s theory there are four timelines: T1 unseen timeline, T2 original timeline, T3 History of Trunks timeline, and T4 Main timeline. There is a Cell native to each of the four timelines: T1 Cell, T2 Cell, T3 Cell,...
by Speedster
Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39975
Views: 3939360

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So let's try to make a tier list, after everything we know. - Zenos - Zeno guards - Grand Priest - Angels - Jiren (FP) - MUI Goku I think it is implied from the next episode preview (ep 130) that Jiren will power up further to match MUI Goku. But that power-up won't be because he is tapping into so...
by Speedster
Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:10 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39975
Views: 3939360

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Miracles wrote:Beerus states it's still questionable IF MUI Goku is stronger than him.
When exactly did Beerus state this? As of episode 129 Beerus has NOT compared MUI Goku with himself in terms of power in any way, shape or form.
by Speedster
Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:32 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku's Ascension to true Godhood.
Replies: 11
Views: 2476

Re: Goku's Ascension to true Godhood.

Notice something? All divine beings. All have silver hair. That's a very careful selection to support your theory but for completeness from the GoDs: Arack, Sidra and Belmod have ginger hair, Helles and Iwne have black hair and Liquirr is a fox humanoid with yellow fur. Mastered UI Goku also does h...
by Speedster
Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:57 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku's Ascension to true Godhood.
Replies: 11
Views: 2476

Re: Goku's Ascension to true Godhood.

Notice something? All divine beings. All have silver hair. That's a very careful selection to support your theory but for completeness from the GoDs: Arack, Sidra and Belmod have ginger hair, Helles and Iwne have black hair and Liquirr is a fox humanoid with yellow fur. Mastered UI Goku also does h...
by Speedster
Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:19 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: With Super almost finished what do you think of the overall series?
Replies: 108
Views: 13943

Re: With Super almost finished what do you think of the overall series?

Unfortunately, Super has paper-thin plot, too many inconsistencies, lots of retcons, contrived plot devices, abysmal power scaling, on the most part poor animation and off-model art on the fighting scenes, a lot of uninspiring/generic/repetitive fighting choreography, lazy transformation designs tha...
by Speedster
Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:43 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Log Power Scaling - A Different Approach
Replies: 89
Views: 24968

Re: Log Power Scaling - A Different Approach

I thought we agreed that ASSJ was simply more training and increasing base power. It should be SSJ/ASSJ/FPSSJ - 50x. USSJ is still weaker than SSJ2. I put it as a 1.8x multiplier from SSJ with decreased speed. Vegeta, Goku and Trunks all showed that ASSJ was more powerful than regular SSJ by transf...
by Speedster
Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:22 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "40 Ton weights max"
Replies: 32
Views: 5147

Re: "40 Ton weights max"

Herms: "It's worth pointing out that it basically says the reason Goku's weight training in Heaven was so effective was that he used Bukujutsu to float in midair as he used the weights, which made it almost infinitely harder. It also says his image training/meditation was a means to raise his ...
by Speedster
Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:52 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Super's feats and DBZ's feats
Replies: 87
Views: 11391

Re: Super's feats and DBZ's feats

^^ Oh yeah, the canon argument… For starters I already said it is anime material. I don't need pointers. I know the story very well. Thank you very much. And second the title of this thread is about DBZ feats versus Super feats. Last time I checked DBZ actually referred to the anime implementation o...
by Speedster
Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:38 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Super's feats and DBZ's feats
Replies: 87
Views: 11391

Re: Super's feats and DBZ's feats

Buu and Vegito were never said to be capable of universe level destructions. Yes, they were. As I said above in episode 270 in the anime. Screenshots below: [spoiler] https://i.imgur.com/PXRr4JE.jpg [/spoiler] As you can read it is stated that Buuhan would be able to break down the walls between di...
by Speedster
Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:58 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Super's feats and DBZ's feats
Replies: 87
Views: 11391

Re: Super's feats and DBZ's feats

Well and DBZ’s feats (DB chapters 195-519) are inconsistent with those in the original Dragonball (DB chapters 1-194). But anyway, for the record, the anime did have a universal feat back in the Buu arc with Vegetto and Super Buu: DBZ episode 270, min 19-20 Context :Dende explaining to Mr Satan the ...
by Speedster
Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:29 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Assistance in understanding Kale/Kefla's forms
Replies: 19
Views: 3403

Re: Assistance in understanding Kale/Kefla's forms

Okay, so ... if you were to give entries a - f explicit names how does this sound? Not sure if there is much point in properly naming them as we won't be seeing most of them again. Kale’s original transformation in episode 100, is the Broly-style legendary Super Saiyan form which the show referred ...
by Speedster
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:19 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Assistance in understanding Kale/Kefla's forms
Replies: 19
Views: 3403

Re: Assistance in understanding Kale/Kefla's forms

Kale’s forms with increasing power order are: (a) Electric-yellow USSJ (episode 101, middle of episode 113) (b) Uncontrolled Greenish SSJ Berserk (episode 100, 101, end of 113/start of 114) (c) “Controlled” Greenish SSJ Berserk (episode 101) (d) Greenish USSJ with controlled power of SSJ Berserk (ep...
by Speedster
Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What would happen if a Gods of Destruction fuse together?
Replies: 6
Views: 1437

Re: What would happen if a Gods of Destruction fuse together?

Potara fusion is an addition. A 1+1. Not a 0.5+0.5 like a child from parents. If you fuse with somebody else you continue to exist as a whole – just it happens that you become a part of a combined character that is the sum of parts. U7 Kaioshin fused with Kibito and nothing happened to Beerus as Kai...
by Speedster
Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:55 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Andriod saga goku kkx20 vs perfect cell
Replies: 13
Views: 2666

Re: Andriod saga goku kkx20 vs perfect cell

There are about 10 distinct tiers of power going from Android saga SSJ1 Goku to Perfect Cell’s level (Initial Imperfect Cell, #17, #16, Semi-Perfect Cell, post RoSaT SSJ1 Vegeta, Super Vegeta, USSJ Trunks, FPSSJ Vegeta, FPSSJ Goku, Perfect Cell). That's about a 15x increase in power level going by a...
by Speedster
Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:42 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How much weight can goku lift
Replies: 55
Views: 13544

Re: How much weight can goku lift

When training on Kaio's planet later on, Goku demonstrates a far better feat of strength by being able to pull three massive weights larger than he is all around the planet, he then ups this ante by lifting an even more massive weight above his head. "Later"? Really? It's 4 years after th...
by Speedster
Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:17 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Was Tens of times only related to fusion of Kale and Caulifla
Replies: 7
Views: 1633

Re: Was Tens of times only related to fusion of Kale and Caulifla

The Potara fusion was not always depicted to be all-powerful. Kibitoshin (the potara fusion of Shin and Kibito) was not an impressive power-up over Shin, especially given that Shin alone is at the very least at Semi Perfect Cell’s level and Kibitoshin was below SSJ2 Vegeta. Remember that Vegetto’s p...