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Anime Adaptation - 1. Cyborgs/Cell Arc : Anyone notice how more prominent the nature sounds were throughout this arc? -- it's such a nice touch. A more grounded story by DB standards, as we are introduced to a memorable character that suffers from possible borderline PTSD and a virus (a virus!) take...

Perfect Cell is no longer allowed to be a part of main series continuity for this very reason. In a little more than a week of existence in "perfect" form, he already had demonstrated that he could take anyone's signature move and not only make it his own, but perform it better than they d...

From about the end of the 22nd TB to the beginning of Namek [...] I've been exposed mainly to the anime, and I was just going to say exactly this for my preferred art style of DB/Z. I think that it was at some point starting with the fight against Freeza that the characters began to show "beak...

I like most of the filler throughout the series, as long as it's not creating plotholes or inconsistencies. Some great ones have already been mentioned (like Super Sacred Water, Space Orphans, and RoSaT training). I guess that I'll add the Piccolo, Tenshinhan, Yamucha, and Chaozu content on Kaio's p...

19 and 20 definitely didn't appear. Trunks literally says there were just two Androids. The android duo would also be too much as it's requirer a Super Saiyan to beat them. I've always felt that they did appear, similar to how the events played out in the main timeline. It's just that F.Trunks was ...

I was definitely sold on this new Toppo look. Freeza got completely wrecked, and #17 was running for his life. The entire staff put out a very strong outing this week, and Yamaguchi once again comes through on the script, which looks to end this Super run. He has been solid since his Episode #96 deb...

ABED wrote:

It's the first time in the story that the protagonist had not been involved in a come-from-behind battle with the big bad!

Goku vs. Ma Jr. says otherwise.

Ah, yes. You're right. I had to think about that one. He was a temporary baddie.

Yeah, I'm in agreement with everything that Michsi and ulisa have been saying here. Michsi has more than nailed how I view Gohan as a character as well as his role throughout the arc. The only thing that I'd change slightly, as for this discussion, is that I feel that deference is the more appropria...

Anyone can nitpick specifics This is not a nitpick! Active vs. passive characterization is a HUGE issue. You are speaking for yourself. I don't see the problems with Gohan during the arc that you see. And Gohan's personality traits had already been established, this supposed new characterization di...

There was a time way early on that I thought that the OG Dragon Ball series ran for just 13 episodes, because that's how it was first presented to the U.S. back then before the abrupt switch to Z (I owned those four VHS tapes). For various reasons, it took me several years to finally get to see the ...

I'm in the same boat as Michsi or anyone that would rather look at the positives in the story of the original Toriyama authored run. Anyone can nitpick specifics, but as can be seen in certain discussions --particularly relating to Gohan during this run -- it tends to go round and round depending on...

The problem with Gohan's inactive role in the Cell arc is that there wasn't a B-plot really to involve him in. You had: Stop the cyborgs, and stop Cell -- both of which gave other characters something to do. Gohan's primary role in this arc was to stay near his out-of-action dad, and then train unde...

How does experiencing the manga VS the anime affect this view? I'll assume that the anime worked in more Gohan content throughout the Cyborg/Cell arc to better keep him in the picture and made more of an attempt to set him up for what came later. Anime adaptation: I have no problems with how or in w...

Absolutely. I wasn't meaning to say that #16's words were the only factor in play, but a part in the overall package of that scenario. Some like to brush over #16's words as if they shouldn't have impacted Gohan in any way -- if anything, #16 at least got him to settle himself down for those few sec...

Gohan may have known, but his own power and indecisiveness had been keeping him locked in place after some time. So many seem to overlook just what an affect it was having on him, being neck deep in a serious internal struggle after being put on the spot (why is this lost on so many??). #16 entering...

Going off of the anti-SSJ2 Gohan transformation scene sentiments, I used to be indifferent to #16's words to Gohan. It didn't really register with me and felt like something there was missing when I was a bit younger. I guess that I expected for there to be a bigger event to trigger the transformati...

*Anime Adaptation* I can't really say if there's anything major that has changed, but: Saiyajin arc : I think that this one has generally remained about the same level of quality for me over the years. There are a couple filler segments that didn't really feel all that necessary, but they are still ...

Get outdoors and explore the vast wealth of things to do to, i don't know... liven up? Yeah. The scent of honeysuckle and berries await you... and perhaps a hint of pine depending on where you live. Be mindful of fire ants, or whatever else may be beneath your feet. But seriously, just go with the h...

I've always wondered what exactly Trunks did when he came to the past that caused the androids 19 and 20 to appear rather than 17 and 18. It's not explicitly stated from what I remember in the anime, but I imagine that the scenarios in F.Trunks timeline and the main timeline played out in a similar...

For what it is, Gohan did very good to last as long to be standing amongst the other seven remaining combatants. I had Gohan as the last standing for his universe from the very beginning, but that was only if Goku got eliminated somehow first. Now, the tournament becomes less interesting and more p...