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by Dragon Wukong
Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The Manga is no more canon than the anime right?
Replies: 149
Views: 17682

Re: The Manga is no more canon than the anime right?

The time limit shouldn't be applied to Fused Zamasu since Future Zamasu must be a Kaioshin since he used the time ring. Toyotaro goofed that one repeatedly while Toei did it right. You have to keep in mind it's a Toriyama-original plot point though. And the explanation is simple-enough, using the P...
by Dragon Wukong
Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:58 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The Manga is no more canon than the anime right?
Replies: 149
Views: 17682

Re: The Manga is no more canon than the anime right?

I argued that they are all canon and exist in different continuities. The person I argued with said Super is no more canon then GT or the movies and is just Toei BS while Toiryama actually has input of the manga. I disagreed with this becasue but the anime and manga come from his plot outlines and ...
by Dragon Wukong
Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:28 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The Manga is no more canon than the anime right?
Replies: 149
Views: 17682

Re: The Manga is no more canon than the anime right?

It honestly, LEGITIMATELY depends on your definition of canon. If one decided to go by what general marketing and media makes use of? Probably the anime. If you don't care? Probably both are equally canon. Buuuuuut, and this is where one has to be careful with their wording to avoid making people ma...
by Dragon Wukong
Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:19 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: is piccolo god level in the manga?
Replies: 154
Views: 24314

Re: is piccolo god level in the manga?

ZombieVito wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:47 pm Goku straight up says 17 is almost as powerful as him.
He uses the "us" plurality, so I'd argue the dialogue is ambiguous if he's collectively referring to the other powerful Z fighters. 17 certainly doesn't have any notable feats implying it.
by Dragon Wukong
Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: is piccolo god level in the manga?
Replies: 154
Views: 24314

Re: is piccolo god level in the manga?

I don't think it's Piccolo being implied to be as strong as Gohan, or anything along those lines. I believe he's just fulfilling the support role. A majority, if not nearly all of the the power coming from those attacks are from Gohan. Even when he planned to blow himself up against Moro, it's very ...
by Dragon Wukong
Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39975
Views: 3972615

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I feel like people forget that Goku Black's body is basically just a post-U6 Goku who can't use the Kaioken. Like, yeah he has all that potential, but one-on-one it's not like he absolute demolishes Goku or Vegeta. (Before pulling up gifs of Goku Black blasting Goku, please note he still didn't mana...
by Dragon Wukong
Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39975
Views: 3972615

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Goku needed Kaioken because of the time skip. Without it Hit was getting beat by regular Blue Goku. That's basically what he's saying. If Goku needs Kaioken to deal with Hit, Goku Black probably wouldn't be able to deal with the timeskip either. Black is way stronger than Goku, he wouldn't need Kai...
by Dragon Wukong
Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:10 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39975
Views: 3972615

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Huh? Goku Black trashes Hit power wise. He would have a higher power level but Hit was superior to Goku Black overall. Goku had to use Kaio-ken X10 against Hit unlike Goku Black who wasn't that far ahead of him. Hit also then killed Goku immediately unlike Goku Black. Goku Black was the antagonist ...
by Dragon Wukong
Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:56 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: I thought Granola was not able to become the strongest because of his limited latent potential?
Replies: 28
Views: 5954

Re: I thought Granola was not able to become the strongest because of his limited latent potential?

Don't overthink it.

Simply put, the dragon can do it by shortening his lifespan, "condensing" his potential power throughout his life into the remaining three years.
by Dragon Wukong
Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What if Jiren > Belmod has been quietly retconned already???!
Replies: 101
Views: 13579

Re: What if Jiren > Belmod has been quietly retconned already???!

Hellspawn28 wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:22 pm Can Hakai even work if someone is above them in power? It would make things more broken and less risky if they can erase anything.
We know it works irrespective of power (seemingly) in the manga. Goku used it on Fused Zamasu, who despite being stronger was still being disintegrated.
by Dragon Wukong
Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:57 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: I REALLY hope that... <MANGA SPOILERS>
Replies: 62
Views: 5910

Re: I REALLY hope that... <MANGA SPOILERS>

If Vegeta does get ANY new form I'd actually want him to have Super Saiyan Rose when he takes the mantle of God of Destruction.

It would make sense in the context of the story and not add a "new" form. It'd just be an appearance change for SSGSS to signify Vegeta's new role.
by Dragon Wukong
Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:51 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The Toyotaro Appreciation Thread! (I think he’s a much better writer than Toriyama!)
Replies: 56
Views: 6314

Re: The Toyotaro Appreciation Thread! (I think he’s a much better writer than Toriyama!)

I'll be honest, I vastly prefer his usage of SSG throughout the first 2 arcs over SSBKK, and I think his handling of the Future Trunks arc far outpaced Toei's version.
by Dragon Wukong
Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5738575

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

The reason that Vegeta used Hakai in base, is one of two reasons. Goku and Vegeta, have successfully concealed god ki in their bodies from leaking and transforming( In the Moro arc, when Dende is healing Goku and Vegeta it takes awhile because their level of ki is enormous i.e god ki) Or the Saiyan...
by Dragon Wukong
Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:10 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5738575

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

One thing I'm not sure anyone has brought up before. Hakai almost assuredly doesn't require god ki, as we can see Vegeta using it in his base form. I can see this justifying it as an ability the dragon could grant Granolah, as it seemingly granted him both power and abilities to make him the "s...
by Dragon Wukong
Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:07 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39975
Views: 3972615

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

In particular, I wouldn't go around saying anything is stronger than Gogeta Blue definitively. That's a character who far outclassed someone who was said to potentially be stronger than Beerus.

Is it possible? Maybe? But there's nothing definitive to say so or even imply, to be quite frank.
by Dragon Wukong
Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:55 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39975
Views: 3972615

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I don't assume anything unless we have an outright statement. That being said, I'll at least put Jiren below an Ultra Instinct Moro, who Beerus seemed confident he could at least do something about once fused with the planet, who gave Goku trouble. And Beerus is above an improved SSBE Vegeta, who wa...
by Dragon Wukong
Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:16 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 8502
Views: 1307208

Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

I can see Caulifla on the grounds that she can be an excuse to have the U6 Saiyans teaming up. You can have Kale with super armor as an assist for various attacks, plus Cabba's Galick Cannon/Impulse slash.
by Dragon Wukong
Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:50 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39975
Views: 3972615

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I don't think it makes any kind of sense to say Kale in the manga was only half as powerful as Goku or Frieza. Frieza's statement is clearly meant to come off as a form of shame and embarrassment that Goku had to step in. Mind you, Goku in Blue ALSO had trouble with Kale, and both Vegeta and Toppo n...
by Dragon Wukong
Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:35 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 15613
Views: 2141962

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

DLC 12: out in spring. So we have 3 months from now. That could mean a 4 characters pack? I hate to burst the bubble but every time they give a season for a release date they mean the end of the season. Spring most likely means May or June. So 5 or 6 months from now. Not once in the past, I want to...
by Dragon Wukong
Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:57 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 16757
Views: 2916894

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

Demigra was effectively confirmed to be a Makaioshin ever since his backstory involved him being a potential vyer for the Supreme Kai of Time position.

Of course, Mechikabura also qualified, because for some reason he's just another redundant version of Demigra.

Make sense his earrings are Potara.