Kanzenshuu

Chappa is comparable to 21st Budokai Roshi. He's more comparable to the likes of Tao Pai Pai and Son Gohan. Kame-sennin was worried about Goku even though he had seen his fight with Gohan. Oh, and he knew that Goku had made impressive gains, travelling the world without the use of Kinto'un. When Ku...

Well i based the 500x on ssj blue Vegeta not finger flicking Trunks away. Why does everyone forget that Vegeta has the ability to hold back? And why wouldn't he hold back, the point of their fight wasn't to murder Trunks, it was to toy with Trunks (You win if you land a hit on me!). Same with base ...

Most of all, I'd want them to add the original Dragon Ball's characters. HOW they would do it? Well I don't know. I would LOVE to play as Tao Pai Pai, Grandpa Gohan, Jackie Chun and most of all, Kid Goku. I would totally buy the game if it has the same concept (Time travel / What-if scenarios) with ...

Why does Tullece take one bite and crush the rest of the fruit?
Is it because he instantly recognizes that he is now far above Goku with just one bite and just... tries to act cool?

My picks, in appropriate order:
1. Super Saiyan Sin
2. Super Saiyan Rage
3. Super Trunks

1.Base Goten & Trunks(POST-Current) vs Initial 4th Form Frieza(Namek) - Boys are not affected by CIS/PIS. 2.Super Trunks vs BOG SSJ3 Goku & Enraged SSJ2 Vegeta 3.Base Goku(Against Yakkon) vs Supreme Kai 4.Initial Base Black vs Buuhan 5.Buuicollo vs Super Jenemba 6.Base Trunks(Current) vs 17...

He couldn't teleport either because he wouldn't be able to touch his forehead. Instant Kamehameha doesn't require him to touch his forehead though? From what we know, the shunkan-ido just requires one to be able to lock on to someone's ki, Goku probably touches his forehead because ot makes it easi...

Is it just me or SSJ3's x8 SSJ multiplier seems way, waaay more than it should actually be. It's not like the form actually manages to do something relevant either, and then we have stuff like Vegeta actually hanging on (for a while at least) and surviving against Kid Buu. The gap between Majin Vege...

ekrolo2 wrote: Krillin's power was also steadily rising as he fought Freeza as stated by Vegeta and equalled about 75,000 when all was said and done according to the daizenshuu.

Is the 75,000 figure AFTER the battle or from the beginning of the battle with Freeza?

This question might seem a bit late but how was BASE Goku Black able to kill Goku (In Zamasu's body) when Zamasu was ~SSJ2 Tier? How is Black stronger than SSJ2 in base? He CAN be SSJ3 Tier in base when he fights Trunks, but only because of his haxxed ability, but this one is inexcusable. And don't ...

I dunno, probably quite a bit stronger than those Namekian villagers that got killed by Dodoria and Zarbon. I'd probably stick him around 10,000 or so. I don't see why he would be stronger than those Namekians. He could be, but not by much. Does the strength checker have anything on him, I'll need ...

- I would bump Drum to 210. 200 seems to close to Tenshinhan. - Yajirobe seems too weak. He did great against Goku. - Cymbal was stated to be many times weaker than Tambourine. - Chappa is way to high. - Majin Spopovitch that weak? - Has it ever been confirmed that Launch gets stronger when she cha...

Omega Buuly (Buu w/ Omega Shenron and LSSJ4 Broly absorbed) vs SSJ4 Gogeta Manga Logic Buu wins because Gogeta toys around with him too much and ends up running out of time. Anime Logic A tough fight but Gogeta wins, since he's not just a fusion of 2 of the top 3 warriors, but also a SSJ4. GT Logic...

So with inspiration from everyone who was kind enough to share their lists and with everything done, I'd like to introduce my completed Battle Power list for the Pre-Z era. Also inspired by Herm's attempt at power scaling http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32368 , I've also mana...

Well, they were able to compromise speed for power by increasing their muscle mass... So maybe they can decrease their muscle mass and compromise power for speed too? Either way, why even bother when you have Goku saying that a balanced SSJ is the best way to go. What I want to know is why Vegeta di...

Couldn't it be that Goku's battle power was actually 910 in the 23rd Budokai? Surely that fixes Piccolo's "Leveling up several times". OR, It could be like this: Old Daimao= 200 //This is the power he used against Goku in their first match Old Daimao (Bakurikimaha)= 400 //This is his "...

Why does Tenshinhan NEED to be stronger than Piccolo Daimao though? Even Goku couldn't reach that level of power without the Choushinsui.
It is very possible that Goku was just using his "Match-Power" against Tenshinhan in their rematch.

SSJ Teen Goku (Vs Jr) vs Nappa, Raditz and Vegeta We have official numbers for Goku's Super Kamehameha. IIRC V-Jump or WSJ puts Son Goku at 910. This is likely to be the power of his Super Kamehameha. In the battle against Raditz, Goku's battle power rose from 416 to 924+ i.e. a 2.22x multiplier. N...

I think that there's a thread specifically for versus battles. I don't see why you would make a separate one.
On topic, I think Goku Blacks stomps HARD. Even the shadow dragons don't stand a chance against Super characters.

The 190 number seems at odd with another number that put 22nd Budokai Goku at 180. Korin said that Goku had already surpassed him when he went to see him after being beaten by Piccolo. So Korin should have a sub 180 power level. Korin said that AFTER Goku had been beaten to a pulp by Piccolo Daimao...