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by Grimlock
Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:11 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1656896

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Yeah, not saying that Saiyans don’t get stronger the more they fight strong opponents by other means, but fundamentally the largest power-ups until the battle with Freeza in the manga were seen in zenkais, like Vegeta was explaining to Dodoria in the panels you linked. And by getting stronger as th...
by Grimlock
Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:16 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1656896

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

From my perspective, for some people it seems this is only a matter of finding unbelievable that Goku couldn’t muster leapfrogging gains in those 16 years, when most of those gains that came before were from near-death-power-ups. The other gains were only seen in transformations and fusions. And th...
by Grimlock
Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:21 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1656896

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Yeah and not to mention that Beerus' examining Goku's body could be taken as him comparing it to what he saw in Whis' crystal ball, so since he noticed different body features by examining Goku's body (perhaps it's the 3rd point you raised, in which case I'll be just repeating it, my bad), it didn'...
by Grimlock
Mon Jan 15, 2024 1:41 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1656896

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

It's not like beyond the BoG's line, there's any more glarring evidence for Freeza > base Saiyans, quite the contrary... And even that line is questionable, because: • Beerus so far cannot and does not have the ability to say how strong someone is with accuracy just by looking or poking a person. •...
by Grimlock
Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:48 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 136
Views: 17314

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread

It's new territory, but not that new? The plus side to this seemingly straight-up sequel to the movie is that we will probably get more of Goten, Trunks (with luck, which we don't have, finally teen Gotenks), Pan and Marron. We have yet to see how a two-year-old Bra looks like. Now's another chance ...
by Grimlock
Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:10 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Inclusivity towards women in Dragon Ball?
Replies: 271
Views: 11915

Re: Inclusivity towards women in Dragon Ball?

I think it's interesting that the games have done this multiple times. Towa is undeniably the 100% "behind the scenes" super master in multiple continuities/stories, and then we got #21 from FighterZ . There are also uhhhhhh those Heroes characters...??? Whose names I'll never remember???...
by Grimlock
Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:53 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 4647
Views: 609662

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

A new year is upon us, but I don't think there's much to celebrate. Well, there is the fortieth Dragon Ball anniversary, but if I made a thread about such a big event now, I would have to deal with "you didn't wait for the exact day and month!1!1!11!". At any rate, is it really a "big...
by Grimlock
Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:12 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1656896

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

So just out of curiosity, we are all in agreement that Kaioshin of East can easily defeat Freeza and that this same dude is weaker than base Saiyans, right?

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by Grimlock
Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:20 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 4647
Views: 609662

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

He got oneshot by Frieza? i know DB fans are bad at power scaling, but this is crazy. I agree. It's crazy that just because someone gets "oneshot", they suddenly become weak. Without taking into consideration factors and contexts. Bardock was probably the thirteenth strongest Saiyan, but ...
by Grimlock
Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:38 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 4647
Views: 609662

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

1. Dragon and Minato one of the strongest in they veres, past and present, Toriyama Bardock was not, especially when you had every soldier in the Frieza Force, King Cold, Frieza, Ginyu Force, King Vegeta, Prince Vegeta And the Kais stronger then him We know nothing of Monkey D. Dragon, and Minato N...
by Grimlock
Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:38 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 4647
Views: 609662

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

So still a bum and not one of the strongest in the series? just like i said? What's your point anyway? Bardock never was one of the "strongest in the series" generally speaking, not even Ooishi Naho's Bardock, who is the Legendary Super Saiyan, is the "strongest in the series", ...
by Grimlock
Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:12 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 100 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 69
Views: 11322

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 100 - Official Discussion Thread

it was also his idea too have him show up for no reason in the arc. Dende forbids one of his many, many assaults to have some consequences in the future. Why would they and what are the chances, right? Toriyama's Bardock was a bum unlike Luffy and Naruto's dads who were some of the strongest in the...
by Grimlock
Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:10 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 4647
Views: 609662

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

I guess there's that. Though I think by "us" Piccolo is referring to the difference between him and Kaioshin of East specifically, not "everyone" as you said in your last post. Be that as it may, we can't rule out that Piccolo forfeited due to the status difference. Not that I wa...
by Grimlock
Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:34 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 4647
Views: 609662

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

You're all better off not trying to find excuses and explanations for things that don't have (in-universe) excuses and explanations. Just call them what they are: problems, contradictions and inconsistencies. They even dared to tell audience that Buu had god Ki ( twice ), even though his Ki could be...
by Grimlock
Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:52 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 4647
Views: 609662

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

That being said, I wish fans had that much leniency with mostly-harmless non-Toriyama material. Coddling Toriyama ensures you get to have some friends to talk to. Considering we haven't seen the King Kai's quadrant-based peers or the Grand Kai since, I doubt they're even canon. https://i.postimg.cc...
by Grimlock
Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:24 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 1207
Views: 93227

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

The most impressive example I've noticed of Toriyama remembering something that fans didn't notice is God Ki. While it's BoG that made everyone even learn about it, it was actually there during Buu saga. Shin in 439 notes that Piccolo only managed to recognize who he is because he used to be Kami, ...
by Grimlock
Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:25 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread
Replies: 913
Views: 97160

Re: A new Budokai Tenkaichi has been announced

Were you expecting them to show everything all at once? I was expecting them to show more than just that. if it story stuff then your setting yourself up for disappointment Only if they retell Dragon Ball Z for the bazillionth time. If it provides new story, probably featuring a new character, it w...
by Grimlock
Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:33 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The languages of Goku's, Vegeta's and Piccolo's techniques
Replies: 2
Views: 2016

Re: The languages of Goku's, Vegeta's and Piccolo's techniques

Toriyama on Vegeta's techniques being in English is true. He never said anything else regarding this topic, as far as I know.
by Grimlock
Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:05 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread
Replies: 913
Views: 97160

Re: A new Budokai Tenkaichi has been announced

Almost a year after being announced (followed by an ungodly silence) and that is all they have to show. The Game Awards and the Oscars should include the "Best & Worst Marketing Campaign" category, that's one thing Dragon Ball these days would become a staple on, probably even on a win...
by Grimlock
Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:17 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Death Battle Goku vs Superman again...again
Replies: 30
Views: 5221

Re: Death Battle Goku vs Superman again...again

• As always, there is no "CC Goku". Just "Goku", or "Dragon Ball Super Goku". • Dragon Ball Heroes and Dragon Ball Xenoverse aren't connected in any way (and that especially goes for Dragon Ball Online). There's an alternate ending in Xenoverse where your Time Patroller...