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by TheSaiyanGod
Wed May 17, 2017 2:23 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5694888

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

If Goku is not able to rival Merged Zamasu, then we do not know what level of his Power Boost after mastering the SSB form It would still be implied if he overcame Vegeta or not ... But it's very strange, Vegeta trains a lot on RoSaT, can switch between SSG and SSB, so Goku simply dominates the SSB ...
by TheSaiyanGod
Wed May 17, 2017 12:48 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5694888

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Is it not possible that Zamasu is weakened because of the fight against Vegetto?
by TheSaiyanGod
Tue May 16, 2017 6:14 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

Trunks got 1 shotted by Black kamehameha and that was basically the only attack he suffered in episode 57, he was glass-canon before unlocking SSJ Ikari. And his exchange with Black, Trunks only won because of skill, not because he overpowered him like Gohan did vs Blue Goku after blocking his punc...
by TheSaiyanGod
Tue May 16, 2017 6:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

Gohan already started the fight stating that he was in full power, Goku was just encouraging his son. There is no reason for him to hold on The only time Goku says '' not yet '' is when he is attacked by a series of blows by Gohan and is thrown away. His son had even asked him to go with everything...
by TheSaiyanGod
Tue May 16, 2017 1:40 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

It does seem a little weird that so many people think Android 17 is Blue Tier even though Goku said he was holding back but people have a problem with Ultimate Gohan being Blue Tier even though Goku didn't say he held back even though Gohan you'd think would be much more likely to be Blue Tier. But...
by TheSaiyanGod
Mon May 15, 2017 11:41 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

I don't think he was using his full power against SSJ2 Goku. It's a bit confusing because going by their fight in Base form then SSJ2 Gohan should have been a match for SSJ2 Goku so Ultimate Gohan should have won without any problem but he didn't. Goku did tell him to unleash more power and surely ...
by TheSaiyanGod
Mon May 15, 2017 10:44 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

There is no reason why Gohan was even close to Goku SSG since he was pressured by Goku SSJ2, even using all his power. He hit punches that were irrelevant in Goku SSB, we do not even know how much force he was using (if he defeated Gohan there , He would not have actually used up all his power). As...
by TheSaiyanGod
Mon May 15, 2017 8:41 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

I just can't see RoSaT doing that much for Vegeta. He definitely got stronger, but a 60% increase seems insane for a solo training session, especially when he doesn't think three years of training with Goku will result in much difference. Vegeta got that strong because of anger, Black said it. Besi...
by TheSaiyanGod
Mon May 15, 2017 2:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

In the episode it was made clear that the use of SSB was a request of Gohan, which means that Goku would not even have pretense of using it. Even in the form of SSJ2, he was telling Gohan to go more seriously, which meant he was at an advantage. It makes no sense to say that he is SSB level just bec...
by TheSaiyanGod
Mon May 15, 2017 2:26 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

Even after rewatching the episode I'll still side with Ultimate Gohan at SSJ2 level or at best SSJ3 Goku, landing and tanking a few hits doesnt equal to him being on par with SSJB Goku with adding the fact that Gohan was serious and at full power the entire time, he is the one that needs to prove s...
by TheSaiyanGod
Mon May 15, 2017 12:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

Even after rewatching the episode I'll still side with Ultimate Gohan at SSJ2 level or at best SSJ3 Goku, landing and tanking a few hits doesnt equal to him being on par with SSJB Goku with adding the fact that Gohan was serious and at full power the entire time, he is the one that needs to prove s...
by TheSaiyanGod
Mon May 15, 2017 11:46 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5694888

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Some chapters have already left on the 17th, and the leaks on the 16th. So it is possible that you leave on these days
by TheSaiyanGod
Mon May 15, 2017 11:21 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

No, I tell by how many punches one sucessfully lands in a fight when both parties are trying. Trunks SS2 didn't land anything on Vegeta SSB, Vegeta landed with impunity on Trunks SS2. Goku didn't hurt Gohan either, who still had the energy to clash with SSB kaioken Goku. Arguing Goku Blue is strong...
by TheSaiyanGod
Mon May 15, 2017 9:18 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

The thing is though and what people seem to often forget it seems is that Super Saiyan Blue Goku by all accounts now should be vastly stronger than he was upon first appearance. Resurrection F Super Saiyan Blue Goku isn't even in the same Tier as the current Super Saiyan Blue Goku to be honest. Veg...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sun May 14, 2017 9:52 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

Answer me one thing. Gohan tells Goku to fight with all his power. But all his power is the Kaioken,right? Gohan's request was even the reason for that use. So, just in the form of SSB, did not that mean that Goku was getting on with everything yet? I mean, we can not know that, just that he went al...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sun May 14, 2017 11:30 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

no he is no where near vegeta Gohan said to SSJ2 Goku that this was his current full power and he was struggling against Goku but then he matches SSB Goku? Super's stupid logic so it should be Gohan = SSJ2 Goku I think you're probably right about him being below Vegeta, but not that far behind. He ...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sun May 14, 2017 9:27 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

Gohan vs Goku Blue: Gohan punched Goku Blue in the gut. Goku punches Gohan in the head. Goku punches again, Gohan blocks. Gohan punches Goku upward. Gohan lands 2 to 1. If this were a boxing match, Gohan would win. So again, Goku was no stronger in Blue than he was in lower Super Saiyan forms. In S...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sun May 14, 2017 12:45 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

Once again, Goku was no stronger in Blue than he was in lower Super Saiyan forms. Said it before, I'll say it again. In Super, different forms just exist to sell toys. He was a lot stronger. Gohan was getting a lot of hits on Goku in his SSJ2 form, but not much in Blue. Gohan vs Goku Blue: Gohan pu...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sat May 13, 2017 11:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

After rewatching the episode, considering the spectators comments, Vegeta and how unaffected Gohan was by trading blows with SSJ blue in a much more serious fight than the rest, I'm putting him in SSJB tier. For me it goes: Goku > Vegeta > Gohan > Buu > 17 > piccolo > 18 > Kuririn > Tien(I still th...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sat May 13, 2017 10:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3932721

Re: Official Unofficial "Dragon Ball Super" Power Level Discussion Thread

The '' Ultimate '' form has no multiplier. It's just all the power of the Gohan totally released, and that hidden power from him has reached the Goku SSJ level. What's the problem? They relate this form to SSJ3, but it has no relation. Gohan was stronger than Goku SSJ3 in the Boo Saga only, now he i...