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- Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:26 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Yeah, I tend to assume most of the ki Gohan lost was due to the hit his confidence took rather than any actual physical damage, and that Goku's pep talk helped him recover most of it. Of course, Gohan being Gohan, there's probably an extra element of "tapping into previously untapped dormant po...
- Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:58 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 4/1/24!)
- Replies: 2581
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Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 9/14/20!)
The problem is that Goku made it clear that he didn't want Boo to be awakened, and he was going all out, and he went SS2 against Vegeta, then when Vegeta goes SS2 as well, Goku looks surprised and a bit annoyed at it, which gives the impression Goku wasn't interested in a fair fair and was willing ...
- Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:23 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 4/1/24!)
- Replies: 2581
- Views: 522699
Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 9/14/20!)
- I wish you elaborated a little bit more reasons in-Universe why Goku didn't use SSJ3 vs. Vegeta, but I guess there isn't much to talk about it. I like to assume that it had something to do with Goku being in the afterlife. We know from this arc that performing SS3 with a living body is significan...
- Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:25 am
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1639333
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
How much stronger than SS3 Goku were Super Buu, Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan? Not even with SS2 Vegeta Z-assisting him he thought he had a shot against Super Buu, so like twice as strong? more? or barely stronger and with Buu's insane abilities, you need to be much stronger to compete? What compariso...
- Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:28 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Did the Earthlings ever drink the Super God Water?
- Replies: 20
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Re: Did the Earthlings ever drink the Super God Water?
But the Yaryarobi climbed it with Goku on his back. Yajirobe was also capable of exchanging blows with 22nd Budokai Goku and killing one of Piccolo's children. He's firmly in the superhuman camp, waaaaay beyond anything Videl has ever done. I'm not trying to say Videl's this high quality specimen, ...
- Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:05 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Did the Earthlings ever drink the Super God Water?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 3386
Re: Did the Earthlings ever drink the Super God Water?
So, the question becomes, could Videl have climbed the tower after he training with Gohan. Hmmm. I doubt it. Strength-wise, Videl doesn't seem that far beyond what you might expect from an real athlete or martial artist, and climbing Karin Tower was a pretty tall order for even Kid Goku, who was al...
- Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:01 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Did the Earthlings ever drink the Super God Water?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 3386
Re: Did the Earthlings ever drink the Super God Water?
Considering the fourteen people who drank it and died presumably all successfully climbed Karin Tower and trained with Karin, I seriously doubt that Videl would've had even a hope of surviving.Anonymous Friend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:20 pmSide question: Could Videl have survied it with her level of ki control training with Gohan?
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:49 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1639333
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
But it's also true I could've used the Official numbers in a different way if I'd really thought about it (e.g. Chaozu - I could've made 610 his Resting or Braced BP, for instance; same with Vegeta against Freeza, which actually works much better than I'd anticipated - see below). Worth thinking ab...
- Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:34 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1639333
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Also, Freeza was still going to fight them on his first form. He only transformed because Vegeta told him to. That's kinda the problem though. If Freeza's already twice as strong as Vegeta, what makes Vegeta think he could take on a transformed Freeza, even with Gohan and Kuririn as backup? I defin...
- Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:28 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1639333
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
The Modest Proposal: Part 2 ... As ever, comments and suggestions are welcome! I like this. I like this a lot. I'm especially fond of the way you handle Super Saiyan here. I've always struggled with how to handle the difference between Grade 1 and Grade 4. I've never liked the idea of Grade 4/Full ...
- Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:29 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1639333
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
But I still, can't figure out what's the deal with KK and KKx2, and maybe the Modest Proposal can shed some light on the matter... Kaio said the technique doubles the power, so KK = x2... so if Goku gets at 16,000-ish with his first KK, that makes sense... but then KKx2 also puts him at that level....
- Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:36 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: What is your ideal alternative roster of the ToP saga?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 9708
Re: What is your ideal alternative roster of the ToP saga?
Other than he fought Goku while Gokubwas dead how? From my memory, the big contradiction is that the Anoyo'ichi Budokai arc's version of Hell is pretty radically different from how Hell is depicted in modern Dragon Ball, particularly regarding whether or not dead bad guys get to keep their bodies o...
- Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:07 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Did the Earthlings ever drink the Super God Water?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 3386
Re: Did the Earthlings ever drink the Super God Water?
Wasn't there a mention of the crew training with Korin? Also, is the Popo/Kami training higher level than the Water? The others climbed Karin Tower and trained with him (and presumably drank the Super Holy Water) in preparation for the 23rd Tenka'ichi Budokai, but there's no mention that they ever ...
- Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:33 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Has Toriyama retconned the “Ultimate Gohan”?
- Replies: 40
- Views: 4906
Re: Has Toriyama retconned the “Ultimate Gohan”?
The modern material has been pretty consistent about treating "Ultimate Gohan" as a transformation that Gohan powers up into like a Super Saiyan form (at least in the anime; in the DBS manga, it seems like Old Kaioshin's power-up is just a permanent upgrade to his base form like it seemed ...
- Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:03 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Did the Earthlings ever drink the Super God Water?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 3386
Did the Earthlings ever drink the Super God Water?
A thought popped into my brain the other day: Back when the Earthling characters were training to fight the Saiyans, did any of them try drinking Karin's Super God Water? Either to prep them for God's training or to give them an extra boost after they completed it? If nothing else, it'd help explain...
- Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:16 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: What is your ideal alternative roster of the ToP saga?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 9708
Re: What is your ideal alternative roster of the ToP saga?
I think it's kind of elitist and downright snobby to discount a beloved character because he's "filler." Dragon Ball Super has incorporated tons of stuff that's not "canon." At this point, who cares? Dragon Ball is a beloved series that will outlive its creator and have many dif...
- Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:26 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: What is your ideal alternative roster of the ToP saga?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 9708
- Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:57 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: What is your ideal alternative roster of the ToP saga?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 9708
Re: What is your ideal alternative roster of the ToP saga?
There are two changes to the ToP roster I would've liked to have seen, the simplest of which would be to swap Muten Roshi for Majin Boo. Dragon Ball Super did Boo real dirty with the whole "Boo falls asleep right before a big battle" gag, and let's be real here, Roshi really didn't have an...
- Tue Jan 04, 2022 5:09 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1639333
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Do we know it's actually addition? It seems to be generally taken for granted. This also means Gohan is slightly under 2x stronger than SS3 Gotenks and Super Buu. I could totally remember this wrong, but Gohan wasn't much weaker than Buutenks, they were actually pretty evenly matched at the start o...
- Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:53 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: If you had the power to change DBS Anime how would you change it to make it better?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 1749
Re: If you had the power to change DBS Anime how would you change it to make it better?
Off the top of my head: - Clarify exactly how the hell Goku's (and Vegeta's) god powers work. If Goku absorbed the power of Super Saiyan God into his normal forms, why can he still transform into a Super Saiyan God? Talk about having your cake and eating it to. - Fix Resurrection F. I have no idea h...