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by ekrolo2
Sat May 02, 2020 2:29 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Lore
Replies: 172
Views: 17828

Re: Dragon Ball Lore

I think backstory can be fun. I enjoy some flashbacks but backstory isn't nearly as essential as story. Freeza's backstory with the Saiyans and Vegeta is interesting, but that's not the primary reason he's so well remembered or why it feels so good when he gets what was coming to him. He spends mos...
by ekrolo2
Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:00 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Lore
Replies: 172
Views: 17828

Re: Dragon Ball Lore

I think backstory can be fun. I enjoy some flashbacks but backstory isn't nearly as essential as story. Freeza's backstory with the Saiyans and Vegeta is interesting, but that's not the primary reason he's so well remembered or why it feels so good when he gets what was coming to him. He spends mos...
by ekrolo2
Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:10 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Lore
Replies: 172
Views: 17828

Re: Dragon Ball Lore

Speaking of fantasy writers and how they dealt with world-building, Sapkowski is a fun example of one as he never drew or even thought about the geography of the Witcherverse' map. Sure, he'd say "Vizima is south of Kovir" and use statements like "it takes x amount days or weeks to ge...
by ekrolo2
Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:38 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Lore
Replies: 172
Views: 17828

Re: Dragon Ball Lore

I'm with ABED, I have stopped caring hard about lore shit. I don't care about who makes the hyperdrive model of the Millenium Falcon or who forged the first Witcher medallion,... It's fluff, pure, and simple. Can I appreciate good lore if I care enough to check it out? Sure. But DBs 0 fucks given ap...
by ekrolo2
Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:39 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Things that grind your gears
Replies: 3949
Views: 457618

Re: Things that grind your gears

The fellation of Beerus, he's not the strongest character ever in the series and he's not even the strongest Hakaishin. Several characters are outright said or implied to be vastly above him but people persist in acting as though the likes of UI Goku can MAYBE give him an okay fight at best. Ridicul...
by ekrolo2
Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:47 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14456
Views: 1989808

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

This sounds like headcanon, where was it ever stated that Goku got his ideal of self-improvement from Grampa Gohan? Either way, Goku wouldnt have any interest in martial arts at all if he didnt have any natural urge for combat (which stems from his Saiyan genetics) And none of this has anything to ...
by ekrolo2
Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14456
Views: 1989808

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

This sounds like headcanon, where was it ever stated that Goku got his ideal of self-improvement from Grampa Gohan? Either way, Goku wouldnt have any interest in martial arts at all if he didnt have any natural urge for combat (which stems from his Saiyan genetics) And none of this has anything to ...
by ekrolo2
Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14456
Views: 1989808

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Jiren in both versions doesn't really interact with Goku until a 3rd into the arc. Hell, Jiren has no real connection to Goku at all, the only reason he even fights him is because Belmod told him to. Their fight is hardly the "heart" of the ToP story, and if it was then its a really weak ...
by ekrolo2
Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14456
Views: 1989808

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

King Vegeta is the entire reason why the plot of the film even happens, so more focus on him makes sense narratively, especially with how this relates to Paragus since that's who he has his grudge with. "Vegeta doesn't give a shit about his parents", which is completely irrelevant to how ...
by ekrolo2
Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:27 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14456
Views: 1989808

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Characters should appear for a purpose, to advance a theme or to play off of someone else or to serve as a good setup/punchline for a joke. They shouldn't be included because of some arbitrary fan quota of appearances. More Bardock, Gine and King Vegeta add nothing: their kids flat out tell us, the...
by ekrolo2
Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:55 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How would you improve DB going forward?
Replies: 126
Views: 12112

Re: How would you improve DB going forward?

DB is already improved: its back to being dead.
by ekrolo2
Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:39 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku's long absences in the story
Replies: 80
Views: 9423

Re: Goku's long absences in the story

. You lose nothing of substantive worth by removing the entire Ginyu Force section. Aside from the Ginyu Force being a lot of fun. And showing had bad things were that Vegeta teamed up with Gohan and Kuririn And show how much stronger Goku had gotten since his fight with Vegeta on earth. Point one ...
by ekrolo2
Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:36 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: I've been thinking and honestly One Piece seems superior to Dragon Ball?
Replies: 174
Views: 19840

Re: I've been thinking and honestly One Piece seems superior to Dragon Ball?

And the writing for excluding Goku kept getting worse. Cell arc was the worst example of this... a heart virus was used to get Goku to be out the story. He just had a titanic battle with Freeza and somehow we have to believe a virus stops him in his tracks. Lmao. Nah, that's fine. Power doesn't mak...
by ekrolo2
Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:46 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku's long absences in the story
Replies: 80
Views: 9423

Re: Goku's long absences in the story

Goku should have just arrived during the Freeza fight, yes. You lose nothing of substantive worth by removing the entire Ginyu Force section.
by ekrolo2
Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:11 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku's long absences in the story
Replies: 80
Views: 9423

Re: Goku's long absences in the story

The worst application of it was on Namek where Goku arrives and is almost immediately taken out again until he can basically repeat the same beat, again. It's one of the factors that contributes the Ginyu Force feeling very superfluous to the story. It is filler (not in the sense that the term has ...
by ekrolo2
Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:41 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: I've been thinking and honestly One Piece seems superior to Dragon Ball?
Replies: 174
Views: 19840

Re: I've been thinking and honestly One Piece seems superior to Dragon Ball?

. It's much better at being an ensemble show than Dragon Ball is. Dragon Ball isn’t an ensemble show. So there’s that. Goku's the clear main character but there's multiple arcs where he's not even really a participant until the very end. Toriyama tries to show off the supporting cast often and even...
by ekrolo2
Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:38 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku's long absences in the story
Replies: 80
Views: 9423

Re: Goku's long absences in the story

The worst application of it was on Namek where Goku arrives and is almost immediately taken out again until he can basically repeat the same beat, again. It's one of the factors that contributes the Ginyu Force feeling very superfluous to the story.
by ekrolo2
Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:34 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3935495

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Miracles wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:26 pm
ekrolo2 wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:29 am Does anyone have the quote about Goku fighting intentionally at low stamina to cheat UI out?
You mean the quote where Roshi asks if Goku is trying to awaken UI when fighting the Saiyan girls fatigued?
That's the one
by ekrolo2
Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3935495

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Does anyone have the quote about Goku fighting intentionally at low stamina to cheat UI out?
by ekrolo2
Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:47 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If a new series were to be developed, Toei should go for a different approach
Replies: 80
Views: 8131

Re: If a new series were to be developed, Toei should go for a different approach

My problem is Toriyama didn't go far enough in intentionally shit posting people. Those were easily the most fun parts of the movie and they were too far from one another. I wanna see Krillin out-doing Blue Vegeta, SS Gohan getting knocked out by a stray pebble,...