Kanzenshuu

Personally I feel that from Toei's perspective, the anime was the main product, not the manga. Of course, it's what they themselves were working on so that's probably all that mattered to them. When it comes to Shueisha though (the right holders to DB and other franchises), the manga is the #1 prio...

Hello fellow fans,

I have US Dragon Boxes number 1, 5, 6 and 7 and I want to sell them. I ship internationally too...as long as you pay the shipping costs of course. Just send me a PM if you're interested.

Thanks for the attention!

I second Julie on this; this is an academic place, but the odd goof here and there keeps things fun; sometimes I just want to exaggeratedly gush in the Music section about a soundtrack CD that I just discovered is goddamn amazing. But most of the time, I come here for something a bit more substanti...

Do you view Kanzenshuu as just a way for fun discussion of Dragon Ball, or you consider it academic discussion of the series (a la Tolkien research, for example)? Do you post on/read it just for fun, or something more serious?

But an ''internal incoherence [in the story]'' could not be semantically equated to ''plot hole'' or even ''inconsistency''? Aren't they, in practice, the same thing? Yes, it's a plot hole, I just used the "internal icoherence" formula to emphathize that it's a plothole because the manga ...

The tayoken is an easy technique that both Goku and Krilin learned on their own. Alright, I went to check the full history of this and you're all halfway correct. Tenshinhan uses Taiyo-ken twice before anyone else could imitate it. The first time he blinded everyone (it's already a bit of a stretch...

As a historian who is also currently under quarantine with a respiratory infection (and kidney stones, just for fun, on top of that,) entertainment is an incredibly important industry right now. Entertainment is the only chance that these lockdowns have to succeed. It's the social lubricant that ca...

No-kaiohshin-damn-where #19 and #20 being the one Trunks referred in his first explanation is addressed, at least in-story. This included the extended canon of databooks, games and everything. It makes quite clear it's not a plot-hole(something necessary to the story but not explained) but a retcon...

I see, guys. Thanks for the thoughtful replies.

Maybe off-topic (Mike and co. can warn me if they think it's appropriate), but is COVID-19 worse a pandemic than H1N1 back in 09-10?

MajinTrunks wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:28 am

Witty User Name wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:48 am Why you have TWO DB's Super Volume 1?

There's a variant cover.

I asked because I also have 2 Volumes 1, but the difference is that they're in different languages.

Finally got around to putting together a media shelf, hoping for it to soon be dedicated to all Dragon Ball, have my Sealed Dragon Box set (minus 2, and 5 being opened- still on the hunt) in the display cabinet. Before having everything piled up in front of each other in my panty: https://dragonbal...

No-kaiohshin-damn-where #19 and #20 being the one Trunks referred in his first explanation is addressed, at least in-story. This included the extended canon of databooks, games and everything. It makes quite clear it's not a plot-hole(something necessary to the story but not explained) but a retcon...

Look, in THIS specific instance it's just a retcon. No plot-hole, because the "hole" has been covered by retconning Trunk to always having never talked about #19 and #20. Unless you start going headcanon that the first Trunks we see is a Trunks from a different timeline where the Androids...

I used to work on a parking lot, but now I am just a ''university guy'', as someone wrote above.

It's a plothole. Look at this detailed explanation the explanation defines it as a retcon, not a plot hole. It defines it as both. Reproducing the last sentence: So it is a retcon of their numbering and a plot hole given that they were clearly referred to as #19 and #20 before, then pushed to have ...

The only one that sticks out to my mind was when Future Trunks stated that #19 and #20 were the artificial humans responsible for destroying his world, only for it later it turn out to be #17 and #18. Why the narrative shifted to them as the antagonists of Future Trunks timeline is never explained ...

Grimlock wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:58 pm We can't say for sure that "Toyotaro just draws", as you put it.

My copies of the manga volumes always state:

ART BY - Toyotarou
STORY BY - Akira Toriyama

You're suggesting maybe it's more complex than that?

Didn't Trunks originally say the cyborgs that would destroy the world were 19 & 20, not 17 & 18? Yes, and this is a know ''plothole'' in the manga -- I think the anime corrected it, IIRC? I think it qualifies as a retcon, not a plot hole but I think you're correct about the anime correcting...

SSJgogeto wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:26 am Wow.

Seriously, this probably is one of the best examples of "go off on a tangent" I've ever seen in this forum. Well played, bro.

Yeah, seems like only a few got interested in the question proposed in the OP. lol