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Manga fpssj2 trunks (DBS) vs Super Vegito (Buu arc)? Trunks stomps. Base or SSJ Trunks would be a better match for him. Did Trunks not struggle with Dabra not long before he travelled to the past? He did have a year where he fought Goku Black consistently and got a ton stronger but Yes before that ...

The "rivalry boost" was stated by Elder Kai who is the same idiot who didn't even know mortals don't have permanent fusion and has routinely proven to be barely above Shin in terms of intelligence

DB▪Magnum-Expert wrote:

PFM18 wrote:

p-hyvo wrote:In my opinioni, base goku (early top)is around 3 times stronger than buuhan in his nase

How do you come to this figure exactly?

Isn't base Goku even above his SsjG BoG counterpart with utmost ease?

Many Many Times over.

How can you say there's no evidence. You just choose to believe beerus saying he only lost an arm wrestling match over whis saying there was a GoD stronger than beerus. If you took Whis statement and chose to believe it, its very clear that jiren is above it. Ignoring the other side doesn't mean the...

Which made no sense. Goku in the buu arc could life 40 tons as a super saiyan and by the time of the u6 tournament, goku and vegeta in their natural states were as strong as SSG Goku in BoG so as a super saiyan vegeta should have had 0 issues Toyotaro's manga doesn't include any variation of a scen...

Doubt it. We just know the suits Whis gave to Gokou and Vegega for punishment were super heavy for them. In the comic, Vegeta was unable to lift Otta Magetta who was at least 1000 tons, even as a Super Saiyan. Yet another example of the manga being trash. Goku could lift 40 tons in base during 7 ye...

It doesn’t help when Toriyama himself says stuff like “Goku is completely unqualified to be a father” Puts stuff in his draft like Goku telling Vegeta to ditch his pregnant wife for training and that he wasn’t their for his kids birth or forgetting about Gohan for the ToP in Both versions until Vege...

Manga fpssj2 trunks (DBS) vs Super Vegito (Buu arc)?

Beerus would take Jiren easily. He has no abilities but his strength. Beerus has Ultra Instinct. Beerus is probably the strongest Hakaishin. 1. No Beerus wouldn’t take him easily, Jiren at one point was dominating Completed UI Goku until Goku got his friendship/rage boosts 2. Beerus has incomplete ...

Doubt it. We just know the suits Whis gave to Gokou and Vegega for punishment were super heavy for them. In the comic, Vegeta was unable to lift Otta Magetta who was at least 1000 tons, even as a Super Saiyan. Which made no sense. Goku in the buu arc could life 40 tons as a super saiyan and by the ...

Beerus would take Jiren easily. He has no abilities but his strength. Beerus has Ultra Instinct. Beerus is probably the strongest Hakaishin. 1. No Beerus wouldn’t take him easily, Jiren at one point was dominating Completed UI Goku until Goku got his friendship/rage boosts 2. Beerus has incomplete ...

No dragonball should end with the DBO ending of goku and vegeta fucking off into space and fighting each other, thats the perfect ending. Do you really want to see a story about some other saiyan achieving all these forms we've seen before and attempting to surpass destroyers, angels, etc? I persona...

The question wasn't about hypothetical goku being pushed to UI, he said end of ToP where goku's max is ssbkkx20 which while extremely powerful still doesn't compare to the likes of jiren or beerus at high level of their respective powers

It's incredibly ambiguous. Goku at this stage is at the very least on par with another mortal who is stronger than a Hakaishin from their universe (Belmod). But we have no idea on how strong Belmod is in relation to other Hakaishin's, or at the very least compared to Beerus, in the anime. What ? Kk...

It's incredibly ambiguous. Goku at this stage is at the very least on par with another mortal who is stronger than a Hakaishin from their universe (Belmod). But we have no idea on how strong Belmod is in relation to other Hakaishin's, or at the very least compared to Beerus, in the anime. What ? Kk...

Fictional characters do what the writers make them do

Chapter 36 predictions? Goku uses spirit bomb on jiren, fails, he gets Omen and they fight and it ends the same way it did in the anime. With Hit gone now, wouldn't be surprise if we get Caulifla and Kale face time. i don't think that will be in ch 36, the last chapter ended with goku and jiren fac...

Chapter 36 predictions?

Goku uses spirit bomb on jiren, fails, he gets Omen and they fight and it ends the same way it did in the anime.

1. Toriyama said that zenkais basically became so minimal after the saiyans first achieved super saiyan that they didn't move the needle anymore and the saiyans had to rely on improving their base power and transformations. 2. Hell IIRC in buu arc after dende healed gohan during his fight with buute...