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by ABED
Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:32 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4787

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

This isn't the first time. Goku asked everyone to not interfere in his fight against Piccolo even after his body was wrecked. Goku has a history of this and it's not a trait that grows. He's the same guy, but the scale of the threat grows. But yes, I do find this touching. I like the acknowledgement...
by ABED
Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:02 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Things from the Anime that you prefer over the canon of the manga
Replies: 34
Views: 3587

Re: Things from the Anime that you prefer over the canon of the manga

My big beef with the anime adding the bit with the Z warriors trying to help is it's completely pointless. It didn't undermine Vegeta's contribution as much as (in my own opinion of course) make him look better at the expense of making the Z warriors look more useless. Krillin, Tenshinhan, and Picc...
by ABED
Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:59 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity
Replies: 90
Views: 7891

Re: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity

Pick your poison. Very unpopular Dragon Ball = just up to Oolong wish. Unpopular Dragon Ball = end of it after Piccolo Daimao. Popular Dragon Ball = up to MajinBuu. Extremely Popular Dragon Ball = Dragon Ball Super. Uncanny Popular Dragon Ball = Kanzenshuu and strange people believing that Dragon B...
by ABED
Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:54 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Things from the Anime that you prefer over the canon of the manga
Replies: 34
Views: 3587

Re: Things from the Anime that you prefer over the canon of the manga

My big beef with the anime adding the bit with the Z warriors trying to help is it's completely pointless. It didn't undermine Vegeta's contribution as much as (in my own opinion of course) make him look better at the expense of making the Z warriors look more useless. Krillin, Tenshinhan, and Picc...
by ABED
Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:16 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity
Replies: 90
Views: 7891

Re: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity

It's wonderful that it can help people, but I have a hard time with this hypothetical. Is the implication that the changes which bring it to a version closer to what we would prefer worth it even if the show wasn't as big. The implication from that is that the changes made it more popular. I have a ...
by ABED
Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:08 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity
Replies: 90
Views: 7891

Re: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity

That's a weird assertion especially nowadays with most entertainment being so segmented. There are so many movies and shows out there with small audiences that people know about. If I didn't know the series existed, my life wouldn't be worse off without it bc I wouldn't know about it. There being p...
by ABED
Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:32 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity
Replies: 90
Views: 7891

Re: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity

To the people who insist they genuinely would be fine sacrificing DB's popularity, and say it's not important I have to ask this; What if YOU had never heard of it? Think about it. You're making the assumption that you would still have seen it somehow, but realistically the odds of that would be lo...
by ABED
Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:57 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity
Replies: 90
Views: 7891

Re: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity

I'm confused. What "gatekeeping" is occurring by some fans idling fantasizing about trading some aspects of fandom for high quality releases? What are these "gatekeepers" limiting access to in the first place through their "gatekeeping"? Did this thread's existence tri...
by ABED
Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:39 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity
Replies: 90
Views: 7891

Re: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity

What? Gatekeepers are toxicity breeding more of itself, not the solution to toxicity. Unless you're conflating them with effective moderators or something. I'm not referring to people who say things like "you aren't a true fan if you don't do X", but more people who limit access legitimat...
by ABED
Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:16 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity
Replies: 90
Views: 7891

Re: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity

Toxic fandom is the way of the world, sadly. I don't think it's inherently the result of anything done to the series as much as it seems like a natural consequence of fandom. Truthfully, any work of fiction with a massive fanbase tends to be toxic. It's definitely not a uniquely Dragon Ball thing. ...
by ABED
Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:21 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Character You Wish Did More?
Replies: 31
Views: 2923

Re: Character You Wish Did More?

I'm not referring to plot. I'm talking about story. Two related but distinct things. It doesn't matter to me how Tenshinhan plays into plots like stopping Zamasu if he did at all. What matters to me is seeing where he is at in his life. In Super, seeing him move away from isolation and taking on stu...
by ABED
Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:35 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity
Replies: 90
Views: 7891

Re: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity

Toxic fandom is the way of the world, sadly. I don't think it's inherently the result of anything done to the series as much as it seems like a natural consequence of fandom.
by ABED
Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:16 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity
Replies: 90
Views: 7891

Re: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity

I know it is frustrating to see Dragon Ball treated in such a subpar manner... but I think this way of thinking is INCREDIBLY selfish. People here are saying "Oh the people who want Dragon Ball to be popular are just atention whores who want THEIR franchise to be the most popular thing.The fra...
by ABED
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:51 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Things from the Anime that you prefer over the canon of the manga
Replies: 34
Views: 3587

Re: Things from the Anime that you prefer over the canon of the manga

Honestly most of it. But two off the top of my head that I dug and don't get much recognition are 1 - the wartorn Planet Vegeta is better than the clean and technologically advanced Vegeta. They're a barbaric race of savages. Their tech is stolen. Post apocalyptic Vegeta is more fitting. 2 - The 22n...
by ABED
Fri Dec 01, 2023 12:13 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity
Replies: 90
Views: 7891

Re: If faced with the choice of sacrificing the franchise's massive popularity

Why would I care how popular it is? Pardon me, but I'm not sure if you understood what it is I was getting at beyond that one term. I only used the word as a stand in for everything else that came as a direct result of it because I didn't want the title to be too long. You're probably one of the la...
by ABED
Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:03 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Character You Wish Did More?
Replies: 31
Views: 2923

Re: Character You Wish Did More?

While it's a fighting show, it's not JUST the only thing that matters. I don't need characters to be more involved in the plot, but just get more development. I love seeing Pan and Goku interract. Gohan, Pan, and Piccolo have such a wonderful dynamic I'd love to see more of. Tenshinhan is always one...
by ABED
Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:18 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Was Dragon Ball GT intended to be longer (or shorter) than it actually was?
Replies: 23
Views: 1495

Re: Was Dragon Ball GT intended to be longer (or shorter) than it actually was?

In a scenario that they planned to end in episode 40 and had to change plans, it wouldn't be surprising for them to change the scripts it in advance, adding this hint that things would continue. What I find most strange is the decision to air the TV Special after the Baby events, before the Evil Dr...
by ABED
Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:36 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Was Dragon Ball GT intended to be longer (or shorter) than it actually was?
Replies: 23
Views: 1495

Re: Was Dragon Ball GT intended to be longer (or shorter) than it actually was?

But it did at least slightly foreshadow the Shadow Dragons. It ends with a closeup of one of earth's dragonballs, which we see again in the next arc except it's cracked this time. It also had Piccolo dying which ended up being crucial in the next arc as he gets Goku out of Hell. In a scenario that ...
by ABED
Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:58 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Your opinion for the original 3 Dragon Ball movies.
Replies: 12
Views: 861

Re: Your opinion for the original 3 Dragon Ball movies.

1st film does a good job of condensing the first arc but its preachy plot doesn't feel like DB. 2nd film's horror elements also don't feel like DB, but it's fun. 3rd film feels like DB and does a great job of meshing so many story arcs. I wish it had maybe 10 minutes more to breathe, but it works we...