Kanzenshuu

Why do you think Vegeta is stronger than Beerus and Belmond then? Because SSB Evolution arguably loses out to 2nd phase UI Omen and was definitely surpassed by 3rd phase UI Omen and FP Jiren. There's nothing anywhere stating he's near fully trained and experienced Hakaishin like Beerus and Belmond....

Well Beerus beat several characters at the level of Gods. If you were to say God of Destruction Toppo is on the level of the average God of Destruction (and I see no reason why you shouldn't) and you mix and match the anime with the manga then Beerus is above Super Saiyan Royal Blue Vegeta at the v...

So I guess is up to the manga to tell us where jiren and MUI goku stand, since toei is fucking lazy as hell to just have someone state it. Btw, ssb evo Vegeta isn’t anywhere near Beerus or belmod to who ever said that. I said, and manga doesnt equal anime. They both do their own thing. Why do you t...

Vegeta already beat someone on the level of the Gods and UI Goku and Jiren are shown to be above that, so there isn't anything that needs to be stated. This should be common sense at this point. If anyone still thinks that Beerus is a relevant power at this point, then there's something wrong with ...

Yeah Beerus said nothing of the sort, so if he doesn't say anything in the next one... It was fairly straightforward really. What might be worth noting is that at the start of the episode the Supreme Kai referred to Jiren already using his full power. When he then powered up further Vegeta mentione...

Kenneth La Torre wrote:So I guess is up to the manga to tell us where jiren and MUI goku stand, since toei is fucking lazy as hell to just have someone state it.


Btw, ssb evo Vegeta isn’t anywhere near Beerus or belmod to who ever said that.

I said, and manga doesnt equal anime. They both do their own thing.

He barely did. So there were no statements that matter? When Jiren powered up in ep 127, that was his full power. Basically, it means ep 127-129 FP Jiren>Super Blue Vegeta>Belmod>/=Beerus>/=GoD Toppo. Hidden power unlocked Jiren and MUI Goku are on a completely different level. Vegeta is absolutely...

Btw, no statements that matter in today’s episode? Goku surpassed Jiren before his form ran out. Goku is officially the most powerful fighter in all the universes. He barely did. So there were no statements that matter? When Jiren powered up in ep 127, that was his full power. Basically, it means e...

Still discussing the 'might' thing? WHy dont you all give it a rest, episode will be out in 25-26 hours or so. I’m actually finding the discussion interesting. I didn’t know anything about Japanese proficiency levels. Though, I usually don’t care about the credibility of a translator when it comes ...

The spoilers were pretty misleading.[spoiler]I was sure Goku was out.[/spoiler]

Still discussing the 'might' thing? WHy dont you all give it a rest, episode will be out in 25-26 hours or so. That's like asking politicians to stop trying to deny climate change :lol: Haha, ye but they arent even debating if UI Goku would beat Beerus, they are debating which translation is good l...

Still discussing the 'might' thing? WHy dont you all give it a rest, episode will be out in 25-26 hours or so.

I think it depends on how they handle Goku's lose. I don't mind him losing but to lose so many times AND after getting a new form seems a bit much but like I said, it depends on what they do. I think it'll be somewhat acceptable if it has to do with bad luck like Roshi being taller than him or him ...

I'll just be glad if Roshi isn't fighting Frost and holding his own. But... that never happened. This. Frost even complained about how hard it was to hold back enough to where he didn't kill Roshi I think some people just watched the scene and ignored what was said lol. Then they go and complain ab...

So the translated chapter is out already?

I will miss super. Was looking forward every sunday for the past 2+ years for a super episode and now in 2 weeks that will all go away. Be it how it was, it was a fun.

Wow, some of you are really debating this 'might' thing eh? WHy dont you take a break for a few days, come back sunday and then properly talk with actual statements from the episode.

I cant wait, 2 more days. Will be a fun watch.

PerhapsTheOtherOne wrote: Beerus, brother. Beerus was the first.

Beerus is part of the gang now, so he doesnt count.

Kenneth La Torre wrote:
I highly doubt universe 11 will be erased. Especially how inportant he was mentioned to be in the interview from a couple days ago. I see a draw.

When was this?

Cant wait to see Full Power Jiren. Before ToP I was super exicted to see what Goku;s new form will be and how he will be beating on Jiren. But now I'm rooting for Jiren lol. Its like Goku is the villain and Jiren the hero. To bad that Jiren will be erased, since u7 must win. Think this is the first ...