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- Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:06 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
At the end of day, this discussion is entirely speculative. I’m just presenting possible solutions that Saiyans might figure out during a moment of need, I’m not suggesting they should think exactly as I said to prove my point, nor did I suggest every Saiyan would be able to concoct that move. It’s ...
- Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:41 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1652989
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Yes, but if it's something they think about amidst the battle, then it wouldn't be relevant to the assessment they made then, of SSJ not being necessary and not damaging their odds when Gohan wants to win and he'a also aware of Vegeta's goals. Fair enough. However, while one may interpret the initi...
- Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:39 am
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1652989
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
But wouldn't a self thought, like thinking to themselves, be maybe a way to employ this strategy without discussing it? Perhaps you mean from the perspective of the writer, but if there's an implication there that SSJ wasn't seen as needed by them, wouldn't it be valid enough for the author to show...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:33 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1652989
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Edit: Hugo Boss Vegeta was shown to be wrong, but by something he couldn't predict -- Goku's powers. That's not a proper rebuttal to this, as he knows 18's powers. One he saw Goku's power vs Yakon, he admitted the gap between them was still there... He isn't blind to reason, come on now. Besides, i...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:47 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1652989
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Of course it changes the implications, for they IMPLY something, they aren't certainties, is as easily as assuming Vegeta was being overconfident, and that 18 was holding back enough for the NEW REVELATION TO FIT THE NARRATIVE. Not to mention Vegeta was wrong, since he wasn’t even the strongest Sai...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:59 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 136
- Views: 17088
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread
I like Super stepping away from constant Goku/Vegeta, I've been bored of them for years. Nice to see the rest of the cast. From what I’ve heard, Goku and Vegeta will appear a lot in this chapter. And Broly too. It’s just not solely focused on them. Edit: Apparently the whole chapter has leaked, but...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:34 am
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1652989
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Yeah, there are nothing that suggest anything either way, at the end of the day. All we have are just a Beerus' line that may be massively questionable and quite possibly very misinterpreted for one side, and a gap of sixteen years for the other side (and it's not sixteen years slacking off either)...
- Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:28 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1652989
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Funny enough, as far as I remember, there is nothing in the original manga suggesting Base Saiyans surpassed Freeza, so seeing such bold claims coming from someone called the PowerLevelGuy must not be a good sign…
- Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:18 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 42696
- Views: 5743148
Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
I'm all aboard Toriyama's train of thought there. Rematches aren't necessary, and Toriyama himself is far more interested in using the next character/antagonist/villain as the ever-moving goalpost. He actually keeps taking them FURTHER away from us! I think that's quaint, neat, and quintissential D...
- Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:55 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1652989
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
So we allegedly "know" stuff that isn't explicitly said and stems from fans' own lopsided "everything ever is a power statement" way of reading scenes. But then stuff that is explicitly told to us is "overstated" and "based on nothing" and "headcanon.&qu...
- Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:23 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The Cell Saga is the most existential in the series
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1258
Re: The Cell Saga is the most existential in the series
I don't know why Gohan should be a full-fledged warrior who kills when necessary without remorse. The lesson he learned was sometimes you have to fight to protect others, not necessarily to kill. And then he had to learn that lesson again at the Cell Games. I agree with everything else, but who say...
- Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:16 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 42696
- Views: 5743148
Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Most of the time Goku just beats someone even stronger than whoever defeated him last. I think that works out well enough for me. And Vegeta is usually the one that surpass the one that defeated Goku last, but most of the time loses to the next big enemy. It’s interesting that as soon as Vegeta dir...
- Sat Jan 13, 2024 1:55 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The Cell Saga is the most existential in the series
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1258
Re: The Cell Saga is the most existential in the series
I also agree that Cell arc added unnecessary character traits to Gohan. That last minute drama also strikes me oddly, since he should be a full-fledged warrior by the end of Saiyan arc, killing when necessary without feeling guilty. The only reason his character arc wasn’t finished yet was his inabi...
- Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:29 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1652989
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
So to make a point of their irrelevancy, Freeza picked on the strongest character there which could draw the point home of how outmatched they are. That could be very well the case, but for real this is just one way of interpreting that scene — that Freeza is suggesting Base Gohan is stronger than ...
- Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:07 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1652989
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
But Freeza had an accurate view over Gohan's overall power. He knew he could end the army in an instant but was holding back. If he knew what he was capable of if Gohan felt like it, I fail to see why he wouldn't do the same to Piccolo, who was likely fighting more unrestricted than Gohan. Because ...
- Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:55 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1652989
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
But the intuition point is to convey that someone's power can be fairly accurately judged even if they aren't using a high effort level. Gohan was likely holding back even more than Piccolo due to his pacifist nature. The fact Freeza singled him out in response to Sorbet disbelief of the army being...
- Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:57 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1652989
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Because Freeza deemed him as the strongest seeing their display when Gohan was on his base state. They were all holding back, but the fact Gohan was still the one who drew attention to him besides the knowledge that they were all going easy shows it's the strongest power there regardless of transfo...
- Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:32 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread
- Replies: 76013
- Views: 8831620
Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread
Guys.. Akio Iyoku: I will continue to produce works, such as anime series, movies, and games, over the next 10 years. (...) He also shares his concerns about the anime industry and how one should approach it: It is tough to see the competition among anime (due to the emergence of streaming sites, et...
- Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:14 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1652989
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
So it seems more logical for him to be analysing Gohan's base state abilities... And knowing they were all holding back but still choosing one shows some perception of good eyes form identifying the strongest even when the warriors, overall, aren't exerting themselves. I still don’t see how that sc...
- Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:22 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1652989
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Well yeah, but Freeza still places special attention on Gohan without knowing he can transform and knwoing they were all holding back. But the fact that despite the fact he knows holding back is a factor but Gohan picked his interest more, it tells me he had something else there in base alone from ...