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The 6/10/15 scale could have already been outdated by the time Resurrection F came out. At the time Toriyama said that he wasn't *sure* if he'd even get involved with a sequel. This is Toriyama but even he couldn't have forgotten what he said in such a recent interview (I hope so). I'm hoping the n...

I'm saying SS3 gotenks > SS3 goku. SS3 is stated to be a peak of a saiyan's power level, and goku simply raised his peak. When SS2 vegeta raged, he powered up a lot, but that doesnt mean that base vegeta somehow became SS2 tier, no. I think Base goku < Freeza < Base gotenks < SS goku < SS gotenks =...

Vegeta vs Piccolo if their power levels are the same? I'd say Piccolo. He has regeneration, stretchy limbs and arguably better strategy. Piccolo. Versatility, skill & regen takes it for the win. I might be bias but Vegeta could take this. Both have fought dirty at a point in the story but I'd s...

- SS3 goku was the top dog on the planet at BoG. Vegeta implied that no one could beat someone who 2-shotted Goku, (which includes gohan + Gotenks) and no one could two shot him (which includes buuhan). So, at the very minimum , goku is in the league of buu arc Gohan/gotenks if not above them. - AT...

All I see it as is Goku's hand trembles like when he fought Beerus but he ain't as strong as Beerus but could be one day. SSJ Goku could be as strong as SSJG back then. Zamasu is stronger than that. SSJ2 Goku is stronger than that and Beerus is on a completely different level which we knew because ...

All I see it as is Goku's hand trembles like when he fought Beerus but he ain't as strong as Beerus but could be one day. SSJ Goku could be as strong as SSJG back then. Zamasu is stronger than that. SSJ2 Goku is stronger than that and Beerus is on a completely different level which we knew because ...

Okay, I'd want to hear your opinion on the manga then :D I messed up a little so you need to see it above. I can't edit it now because of the 2 hour limit so i wasn't able to make the quotes tiny and fix some mistakes, damn. Not a problem, I checked it out. I'd agree with most of it but I generally...

Fixed. Thank you for pointing that out. I meant DBZ anime VS DBS anime characters. Both have an incredibly messy and confusing power scaling, so i'm gonna pass on this one sorry. I still haven't conclude where to put certain characters at. I would give my opinion if its DBZ era manga VS. DBS manga ...

Khin wrote:You need to more specific, because there is a huge difference between the strength of the characters in the manga and anime of Super.

Fixed. Thank you for pointing that out. I meant DBZ anime VS DBS anime characters.

I want to get AS MANY opinions as possible on this :thumbup: Who are the strongest characters in the Anime (specifically Kai but Z can work too) can these Dragon Ball Super ANIME characters (Future Trunks arc ANIME) defeat in terms of raw power (Except their own counterparts): 1. Goku (in Base/SSJ/S...

New matches from the Battle of Gods arc in Dragon Ball Super: -Goku (SSJ2) VS Majin Buu -Goku (SSJ2) VS Gotenks (SSJ) -Goku (SSJ2) VS Gotenks (SSJ3) -Goku (SSJ3) VS Gotenks (SSJ3) -Goku (+4 Saiyans' Ki) VS Vegeta (Raging), Gohan (SSJ) and Gotenks (SSJ) -Goku (SSJG) and Beerus VS Whis -Goku (SSJG + ...

I don't think the Goku vs Trunks fight kills the idea, Goku WAS gauging his opponent's power and went from weaker forms to stronger ones until he could overpower him in BOTH the manga AND the anime. No it's not how he stood up to Trunks but something else. The only reason Goku fought Trunks was bec...

You'd still have to still explain Frieza though. Frieza in his first form was probably SSJ2/3 level himself and back on Namek his Final Form at 100% was well over 200 times more powerful than that. Also Enraged SSJ2 Vegeta was supposed to be stronger than SSJ3 Goku (and arguably Mystic Gohan) but h...

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but did anyone notice the sparkles when Goku kicked Trunks in the back of the head? Did he use god ki to KO Trunks? Not just God Ki but SSG! I'm having a REALLY strong feeling that Goku's gonna use SSJG in his fight against Black (Probably in the next ch...

New matches from the Battle of Gods arc in Dragon Ball Super: -Goku (SSJ2) VS Majin Buu -Goku (SSJ2) VS Gotenks (SSJ) -Goku (SSJ2) VS Gotenks (SSJ3) -Goku (SSJ3) VS Gotenks (SSJ3) -Goku (+4 Saiyans' Ki) VS Vegeta (Raging), Gohan (SSJ) and Gotenks (SSJ) -Goku (SSJG) and Beerus VS Whis -Goku (SSJG + H...

I mean with how in the anime Goku absorbed the power of God like he did in the movie. A hugely powered up Base Goku fought Final Form Frieza as he did in the movie. However in the manga he didn't absorb the power of God and if he didn't then the events of Resurrection F must have played out very di...

Trunks isn't a prodigy? What?! In the future world, he started training with Gohan at 14 years old, and he was already a Super Saiyan. As a Super Saiyan, he went from being weaker than base Future Gohan, to almost as strong as SS Goku before the RoSaT, with only 3.5 years of training alone without ...

That statement is probably an excuse to introduce more transformations to sell more merchandise.
Just kidding, I think it just signifies that the 3 years of training didn't benefit them much. They probably just surpassed Golden Freeza.

The script calls Gohan the strongest in the group against Freeza's army, before he used Super Saiyan. The anime shows the same, so I feel like this is the level he is. Ah, ok. I didn't know that the script stated that. Thank you. with that in mind, do you think gohan still gets the same 50x boost f...

When Gohan fought Gotenks absorbed Buu and got owned, what do you was stopping Gohan in transforming? With how things seemed to be in the manga, where all of Gohan's power was condensed into a new, single, super-powerful base or "Ultimate" state, then either A) Gohan no longer could trans...