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re: all the talk around blue tier and how Gohan/Piccolo relate to it and Vegeta/Goku Are we accounting for the movie referencing ToP blue goku and vegeta, and both of their blue forms being much stronger than that at the present moment? Considering this, Piccolo could easily be above ToP Blue Goku a...

Hopefully we never see the end of Freeza. He's the most charismatic and interesting villain we've had in DB. And at this point, I think he is more amused by the "rivalry" with the saiyans than anything. He knows they will never kill him, especially Goku, and they don't interfere with his p...

On a separate note, I'm kind of bummed about Goku's "TUI" being black haired like omen. It destroys the cool contrast between he and Vegeta's forms.

But this chapter was great and my favorite so far since Vegeta achieved UE. God bless Freeza and what he brings to the series.

Imagine when this arc finally gets animated, and we have to deal with filler in a story that is already filler. 40+ episodes for one round of the many fights to finish.

Can't Gas have just weakened to the point that Ultra Instinct Sign does just surpass him no? In the real-time 2 minutes since he was demolishing MUI and UE together? No. Unless you imagine Vegeta's SSJBE would also surpass Gas, even though he was beating a stronger form seconds before Goku got invo...

I get it, but it makes no sense because Goku says he's now slightly stronger than Gas, and Sign is a massively weaker version of the UI he was using when Gas was kicking their ass. There's no way controlling his emotions should make up a gap that vast. Obviously its canon and has to be accepted, but...

I'm making a power hierarchy list, and assuming the movies continuity has all power references referring to the TOP era DB and DBS: Broly. Meaning Gamma 1 and 2 are about the same power as TOP SSJB Goku and Vegeta, since that's where they capped in the Broly movie. Using this, I'm placing Final Goh...

I'm making a power hierarchy list, and assuming the movies continuity has all power references referring to the TOP era DB and DBS: Broly. Meaning Gamma 1 and 2 are about the same power as TOP SSJB Goku and Vegeta, since that's where they capped in the Broly movie. Using this, I'm placing Final Goha...

I, for one, honestly didn't mind the fighting scenes. I appreciated seeing UE Vegeta and UI Goku fight side-by-side, and I actually look forward to seeing how they finish Gas off. I just hated the whole Bardock nonsense in the beginning. This is where I'm at 100%. I want this saga to end, and I'm h...

I actually think Goku is stronger than he was against Granola. After losing to Granny, his non-silver UI got sharper, so his silver UI should also be sharper than before. He is now holding his own (not getting oneshot, at least) against a much stronger foe. This Gas put to bed 2-eyed FP Granola, an...

Hmm, I actually saw Vegeta as stronger than Goku in the latest chapter. Or at least more formidable. Vegeta was the only fighter to land an attack, and outright stated he's getting more powerful. Gas also was impressed by him at the end of the chapter, in way that wasn't necessary to write unless it...

You can assume so but I believe the immediate reactions from both Goku and Frieza suggest that Kale was stronger than them but would lose in a fight overall due to her lack of battle experience. You can take Krillin's statement at face-value and I'm not really surprised why you would because it's a...

This brings me to Dyspo, where do you guys place him? A battered SS Caulifla held him long enough to let Cabba save Kale, when Dyspo was beating his ass. Then Kefla proves to be way too much for him and Kahseral together, and they go crying to Jiren. And then he'll stalemate with 17 off-screen. Poi...

Ch. 15, pg. 34.1-2 Context: Goku and Trunks pause their sparring Goku: “This is amazing, Trunks. You’re so much better than Gohan from back than.” Trunks: “It’s been more than ten years since then. I’ve trained myself to death.” Goku's line about Trunks and Vegeta's line about Goku in the Boo arc a...

C'mon bro. You're better than that. You've proven it many times. Believe me, I would be inclined to agree with Goku > Gohan if it weren't for the multiple visual cues and statements present. Goku initially enters the battle smiling because Kale was a respectably powerful opponent. His attitude imme...

C'mon bro. You're better than that. You've proven it many times.

I also want to touch up on a topic related to this. I'm aware that Gohan regards Goku and Vegeta as his superior in the Moro Arc but that came after the events of Broly where Goku and Vegeta were explicitly shown to be training. However, I wonder how large the gap is between Gohan and Goku during t...

I just assumed they used Gohan as a reference point because SSJ2 was the common form they had all attained. Like, "your SSJ2 is so far beyond Gohan's". If Trunks had used SSJ3, they would have used that as a reference point.

Noted. I think what also helps your rationale is that Kaioshin's shock at Base Vegeta's strength could have been attributed to how powerful the Saiyans were in their Base forms, knowing full well that they can amplify it much further than Super Saiyan. So, it doesn't necessarily mean that Kaioshin ...