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by SSJ Human
Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:47 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan and transformations past SSJ2 redux
Replies: 8
Views: 1167

Re: Gohan and transformations past SSJ2 redux

Gohan is better served with the simple Mystic form instead of chasing more and more colorful body-distorting transformations. Well if you feel that way, then what would say about Goten gaining those forms? There doesn't seem to be any interest in exploring his character apart from being Trunks' sia...
by SSJ Human
Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:58 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan and transformations past SSJ2 redux
Replies: 8
Views: 1167

Re: Gohan and transformations past SSJ2 redux

Lord Beerus wrote:Gohan will gain a new form if the plot demands him to.
I know, but not only that. If the writers chose to have him gain it. I would have been fine with him having just 2 if 4 didn't exist. I want him to at least get one of those forms and or Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.
by SSJ Human
Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:48 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Overused characters?
Replies: 69
Views: 7484

Re: Overused characters?

Gotenks. Not because he gets a lot of screen time, but because he's the only Fusion we ever see, even though you'd think all the other, far stronger Z fighters would have Fused into different kinds of new warriors by now. But no. Just Goten and Trunks. I'm inclined to agree with you. When was the l...
by SSJ Human
Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:30 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Overused characters?
Replies: 69
Views: 7484

Re: Overused characters?

I wouldn't say that Goku is overused since he's the main character, but I'd argue the fact that some other characters need to take the spotlight for once. That was why I've always loved the Cell saga because it made use of all the Z-Fighters (Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Piccolo, Trunks, Krillin, Tien and Y...
by SSJ Human
Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:25 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan and transformations past SSJ2 redux
Replies: 8
Views: 1167

Gohan and transformations past SSJ2 redux

So awhile back I made a thread discussing my disappointment with Gohan not achieving Super Saiyan 3 or 4 in canon and I realized something while reading the comments. If Dragon Ball would have ended with Z and thus never introduced 4, I wouldn't have minded him not gaining the third form. I made sen...
by SSJ Human
Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:25 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Character that you'd like to see more of
Replies: 28
Views: 4042

Character that you'd like to see more of

I kind of feel that besides Goku and Vegeta, none of the characters really get to shine that much as was the case with the conclusion of the Buu saga and then GT. So what character besides Goku and Vegeta would you like to see get some type of starring role in maybe a film or other piece of media su...
by SSJ Human
Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: In GT canon, are there 2 possible Super Saiyan 4 forms?
Replies: 4
Views: 1139

Re: In GT canon, are there 2 possible Super Saiyan 4 forms?

I'm guessing it's just a thing with the characters and that the terms come from convenience.
by SSJ Human
Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:14 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?
Replies: 38
Views: 7378

Re: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?

Wait, Bulma tried to zap him? Did she try to zap anyone else apart from Vegeta and Goku, who already had the form? From what I remember,Omega shenron was trying to kill him before she did that which led him to push Gohan out of the way then destroy the machine. Apart from Gohan,no. I just went thro...
by SSJ Human
Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:57 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?
Replies: 38
Views: 7378

Re: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?

Ssj3 : reaching this form takes a lot of time and effort which is something Gohan doesn't put into training. Ssj4 : Bulma tried to zap him with her machine during the battle with Shenron but missed so I think if Gt continued after that he would have gotten the form. Ssgss : This isn't a new form,it...
by SSJ Human
Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:15 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?
Replies: 38
Views: 7378

Re: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?

The way I look at, Gohan had his time to shine during the Cell Games. It's from what I can recall the only time in the manga that a major villain was defeated by someone that wasn't Goku. He was the first character of three to reach Super Saiyan 2. Who are the other two people? Goku and Vegeta. He h...
by SSJ Human
Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:17 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?
Replies: 38
Views: 7378

Re: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?

I think SSJ4 should be exlusively for the pure bloods (Goku and Vegeta). Why? SSJ4 requires Oozaru and SSJ. Gohan has been shown to be able to use both. I would understand that opinion regarding Trunks and Goten since it's stated somewhere that they were born without tails and there never use Oozar...
by SSJ Human
Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:12 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?
Replies: 38
Views: 7378

Re: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?

Goku and Vegeta are the ones who are constantly working hard and pushing themselves to achieve things like new Super Saiyan forms. So they "deserve" them more than Gohan, who only ever trains and fights out of necessity or for occasional sport. Things like new forms are the result of that...
by SSJ Human
Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:50 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?
Replies: 38
Views: 7378

Re: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?

Son Gohan has "mystic/ultimate" form, which somehow, is stronger than his Super Saiyan 2. But I wonder, why in your text there is no mention of Vegeta? Who also stopped at Super Saiyan 2. And now... After twenty years after the end of the series, he is finally getting a new form (two, act...
by SSJ Human
Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:46 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?
Replies: 38
Views: 7378

Re: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?

Super Saiyan 3 : Because it's not in Gohan's character to push himself to attain things the way Goku does, and because he's not a magical being who can pull power out of nowhere like Gotenks. Super Saiyan 4 : Because one of the small handful of good things GT did was NOT devalue the incredible new ...
by SSJ Human
Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:43 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?
Replies: 38
Views: 7378

Re: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?

SSJ3 was easily the most useless transformation in the series and he got his potential unlocked which made him stronger than any SSJ3 at that point or stronger than what SSJ3 would have made him. The reason as to why he didn't get 4 in GT or SSJG in the new movies (besides the GT staff/Toriyama not...
by SSJ Human
Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:38 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How did Baby control Bulma, Bra and all of the other humans?
Replies: 2
Views: 2756

How did Baby control Bulma, Bra and all of the other humans?

I understand some of you guys don't like Dragon Ball GT, but I've been curious about this for quite some time. We see Baby possess Trunks, Goten, Gohan and Vegeta but he did he get to turning Videl, Chi-Chi, Bulma and Bra into Tuffles? If I remember correctly, they were the first to be affected, bef...
by SSJ Human
Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:34 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?
Replies: 38
Views: 7378

Why doesn't Gohan get SSJ3, SSJ4 or SSJSS?

I don't understand why it's only Goku or Vegeta to get a new transformation while the other Saiyans are left being mediocre. Goten and Trunks never went past the first level of Super Saiyan and Gohan reaches his peak at Super Saiyan 2. I was okay with that in the context of Dragon Ball Z, but in GT ...