Kanzenshuu

Compared to last week, everyone is down significantly except for Chibi Maruko-chan, which was up .4%. Is there some kind of big holiday going on over there? It's kinda strange seeing overall viewership be down so much for two weeks straight. Yes, there was Tanabata then Ocean Day. If you look at la...

16's pep talk was neccessary. Why would Toriyama write it if that's not what Gohan was struggling with? In universe, it wasn't necessary, as like I mentioned, Gohan was getting angrier and angrier from Cell's actions alone. Out of universe, from AT's point of view? Well you have one android who lov...

This was not great storytelling because as I and others point out - Gohan went into the Room of Spirit and Time wanting to help and he comes out with cold feet saying that figthing Cell is pointless. He needs a pep talk from 16 to bring him back to where he was prior to the Room of Spirit and Time....

There's neglect in how the scenario was portrayed. Trunks nearly broke down, believing himself to be a failure in his master's eyes, before the surviving Gohan arrived and reminded him why he started his first trip to begin with. A thematic, brief reminder is not harmful - completely understandable...

I know we need a balance between dark and light,the Manga should have at least balance those, Trunks wasn't even sad when his timeline was erased Fair enough, though the manga focuses much less on the world of Trunks' timeline so it makes sense the manga wouldn't need that level of resolution. I al...

I'm disappointed by This version ending,is not because there the Same, rather is the tone of it,is all happy and upbeat, through the anime did it but here is worse,I don't like how happy and upbeat it is through zeno just erased an entire timeline,the Anime did better with the ending through I hate...

They have made Goku a little too happy go lucky in Super. He doesn't seem to care about the consequences of things as much. Maybe some of that is because of the voice acting, I don't know if it carries over to the dub of Super because I haven't watched it yet. Nozawa does that "heheh" lau...

Cell only kills as a means to an end. That's what makes him different than say, Majin Buu.

But keeping that reveal from Gohan? What sense does that make? I understand trying to surprise the reader, but keeping that reveal from Gohan doesn't make sense. A surprise is nice for the audience, but not if you have to sacrifice simple logic to do so. Gohan's basically working as an extension of...

Aside from the lackies on Namek? No one. Even if he hadn't killed them, he's tried to kill people before, like Freeza and Vegeta. That's morally the same as succeeding. Okay, can we vere back to Gohan and the Cell Games? This feels like we're just arguing UltimateVegito's thread again. We don't kno...

ABED wrote:

That's up to interpretation.

How is that up to interpretation. When were we ever shown that?

When were we ever shown him killing anyone? That was my question.

We've been down this road before and Gohan never believed killing is a sin. That's up to interpretation. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Gohan has ever killed anyone ever (before Cell, of course). Even Garlic Jr. was just sealed away in the Dead Zone. I don't need Piccolo ...

The issue is whether his actions prove he will make good on his threat and Cell's actions are proof that he will make good on that threat. I don't know what you are trying to claim. There's no questioning whether Cell would make good on his threat, but there is questioning how closely and immediate...

Dude's getting old, much like Nozawa and the others. He still did a great job as Charles zi Britannia from Code Geass. I don't think it's so much age, It just sounds like he's exaggerating his cell voice more in kai. He did exaggerate his voice in Kai to the point of strain. I think Wakamoto just g...

Cell isn't a threat until he kills an innocent on Gohan's watch. Are you really that concrete range of the moment bound? Do you think Gohan is as well? If you have verifiable proof that Cell has murdered people, how is that not sufficient evidence that he will make good? He destroyed a good chunk t...

I think it's important to remember that while Cell killed people, Goku and Gohan are not heroic defenders of justice trying to avenge those innocent deaths. Goku's connection with Cell is personal, it's a vendetta from the Red Ribbon army. Gohan's connection is through the plan to assassinate his da...

Good point, MozillaVulpix, since the other Androids can be reasoned with, it makes sense to try with Cell. Cell was already reasonable enough to give everyone 10 days to prepare.

Who said it needed to be Android 16? If Krillin was killed by a Cell Jr., surely Gohan could've gone SSJ2. That's a question for Toriyama. By writing 16's speech, he's saying Gohan needed to hear that message to access his power. To be fair, it would've been really cliche at this point in the serie...

Who said it needed to be Android 16? If Krillin was killed by a Cell Jr., surely Gohan could've gone SSJ2.

All of a sudden he can't face Cell? He did face Cell, it's just that he was overwhelmed by him as a SSJ. The problem was Gohan couldn't release his true power at will. That had always been the case until the Cell Games. The battle you mention with Recoome is a good example of him not using his full...