Kanzenshuu

And with this announcement, Vegeta is back to being about two transformations behind Goku in power. 2 transformations and possibly less than 48 minutes behind. Nothing stops the writers from giving Ultra Instinct to Vegeta on the next possible occasion, even during further training on the world of ...

jeffbr92 wrote:I still don't get it... Is Jiren wish to erase his past or something like that?

He wouldn't need the Dragon Balls for that, ask Goku, it's sufficient so get a really hard blow to the head.

In my opinion, this is just the Dragon Ball recipe at work: epic battles with epic beatdowns, initially, then a powerup and a victory, then the next opponent, until the final villain comes along. The only issue with this, is that they have created this constraint of everything happening in 48 minute...

[spoiler]He's a scary thought for you.....is the guy who slaughtered Jiren's family and friends still alive? If he is....is that because Jiren can't find him.......or is he even more powerful?[/spoiler] What about the third option? Jiren realized that his parents were killed by the infamous, facele...

Wow, somebody died on Dragon Ball, what can you do? Yeah, we can revive him. Death has no meaning, as long as there are Dragon Balls. That Frieza joke, complete with his theme playing, was hilarious. It reminded me of the TFS moment when Vegeta's theme started playing and Broly immediately knocked h...

So it appears that [spoiler]17 killed himself protecting Goku and Vegeta against Jiren's final attack.[/spoiler] That would have been a dramatic moment, if death meant anything in the Dragon Ball Universe. I guess Goku will have to make a stop a New Namek on his way home, that's all. More important...

Contrary to the popular opinion, I think Toppo did an amazing job so looking down on him now for going out early is a bit unfair as he single handedly destroyed Freeza which is no small achievement. The fanbase cares too much about numbers, Toppo didn't eliminate anyone so he "sucked". Wh...

So vegeta will come close to G o.D, or be as strong as a G.o.D in 126. Nowhere does it suggest that. Looks more like Vegeta will attempt to try and job like he usually does as it fails. [spoiler] https://www.db-z.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Dragon-Ball-Super-Episode-126-0056-Vegeta-Blue-SSGSS.jp...

Not a bad episode. I am a bit disappointed by Toppo though. It's my biggest issue with it. I wonder if 17 and Vegeta will be eliminated in the next couple of episodes to make room for Goku versus Jiren. I want to see a lengthy 1v1 with the two... and not just one or two episodes. As a Vegeta fan, I...

What the fuck? What’s with jirens attitude of all a sudden? How can say that to toppo? There is something fishy going on with jiren. Not necessarily fishy. Maybe Jiren just didn't like Toppo choosing GoD power over Justice (tm) and his Pride Trooper uniform. He commented negatively on Toppo having ...

Zamasu55 wrote:Looooooooooool what a joke Hakaishin Toppo. Eliminated no one.

Well, he delivered a crushing defeat to Golden Freeza and #17 and it took Unnamed Blue Form Vegeta to go all out to defeat him with a final explosion.

Aside from fan theories, a thing that made me always think was Vermoud's quote " Jiren is a being who will never lose, no matter who he's up against" like he CAN'T be beaten, not only because of his power but with another trick/curse /wish or something else That could be an interesting pl...

perucho1990 wrote:Freeza is damn durable for getting up after getting mangled by Toppo.

Plot armor. If there are no further plans for a character's involvement in the ToP, they get eliminated, if there are further plans, they need to be in a usable state when their moment comes.

Oh, I'm also starting to think those leaks may be true, I totally see Frieza furious when Toppo eliminates 17, the Android saved frieza with that rock and permitted him to still dream to win and have a wish, he owe one to 17 Yeah, like he owed one to Goku for sparing him and quickly rushed to earth...

I usually see people thinking that Broly is the only character in the franchise allowed to be brutal and that's just silly. I see you and others making good points here, but I'm afraid Toppo violated patents no. 102,925,291,592 "Facegrab (tm) with smashing-through-solids follow-up", 102,9...

Mmmh, I guess the PhDs for theoretical Dragon Ball lore will have to adapt their GoD-models to a couple of newly observed phenomena this week. Personally I do not really like this "Mewtwo uses electro ball on Toppo (Ground/Hakai Type). It has no effect"-mechanic, which is not grounded in a...

He's in his 50's right now and once saiyans turn 80 they age rapidly (unless he takes the job of GoD) so trunks and bulla will live longer than him Yeah, but that's merely established fact, so they can easily retcon this or introduce a new rule, like "superior body mastery slows aging" (R...

SSB Goku had him looking a little worn out and gave him PTSD during the recruitment arc The spoilers also say 17 and Golden Freeza together will be pushing him. Indeed but that is of very little information value. Remember, Golden Freeza and Ultimate Gohan couldn't defeat Dyspo without sacrificing ...

Are we really complaining about a plot line that hasn't happened yet? Would it make it better if we complain 22 days later? It is generally better if somebody complains about stuff after he or she is reasonably certain there is something to complain about. But people are getting understandably nerv...

precita wrote:17 won't last much longer. Did 17 have the bomb removed from inside of him or was that only 18? I don't remember how Krillin phrased the wish.

They'd better not go anywhere near the idea that an Android-saga bomb would hurt anybody, who's left in the tournament at this point.