"Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

[KayDash]

I overestimated Caulifla, Kale, and Kefla's popularity. I was sure at least one of them would make the DLC. Maybe somewhere further down the road?

http://www.animegamesonline.com/2018/02 ... ned-rumor/

Who knows if this'll happen or not but based on XV2 getting more characters than what was planned gives me hope we'll get more here as well.

The first two are welcome, but more Goku and Vegeta? That's makes six of them! This starting to feel like Tenkaichi roster.

That'd be somewhat acceptable if we had more characters in the game or season pass but we don't so they bring the "new" characters down to 6. Hopefully this second season pass is true as that'll somewhat make up for it.

That S2 roster is more then likely fake, but S2 will also more then likely happen, unless global nuclear war breaks out or something, there's no reason to stop something that's profitable.

About base Goku/Vegeta, I have a question to everyone who reads this. Would you prefer just 6 new characters per season (like every other fighting game does), or you rather have 6 new + 2 clones/alternate versions?

[sintzu]

Would you prefer just 6 new characters per season (like every other fighting game does), or you rather have 6 new + 2 clones/alternate versions?

I'd take the 6 new ones alone as it won't cost as much or waste anyone's time.

[Kunzait_83]

For the benefit of any non-Marvel vs Capcom fans in here:

[KayDash]

For the benefit of any non-Marvel vs Capcom fans in here:

Although they did that tech before in an other DBZ game:
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Spirit_Excalibur

If we are really going deep into "who did it first", then gotta mentoin:
https://youtu.be/niZDqSwmxBc?t=815
Which was probably the base idea for Captain Commando's team attack, because they somewhat function like a sentai hero team.

But it's a funny coincidence that both new characters have something that is present in classic MvsC. (Zamasu's 8-way flight being the other one)

Would you prefer just 6 new characters per season (like every other fighting game does), or you rather have 6 new + 2 clones/alternate versions?

I'd take the 6 new ones alone as it won't cost as much or waste anyone's time.

You can still take just 6 new ones. I don't get how it wastes anyone's time though.

[LightBing]

They did a great job with Vegetto and that trailer actually feels like one. It's weird, I didn't count the time but I assume it was the same as previous trailers?

About base Goku/Vegeta, I have a question to everyone who reads this. Would you prefer just 6 new characters per season (like every other fighting game does), or you rather have 6 new + 2 clones/alternate versions?

It depends on the clones and if they are worth it. But in general I rather only be given 6 characters. We're reaching a point where this absurd quantity of Goku clones is damaging to the game, at the end of this DLC we'll have more than 10% of the roster as him, add Vegeta and 25% of the roster after DLC is two characters.

I know they don't all play the same but they look the same and it makes your fight's more repetitive. For a fighting game this is key. They should never have had two versions of Goku and Vegeta in the base game and another version if coming should only do so in a hypothetical Season 2.
It hurts even more when there's decent of cool and interesting characters untouched like Janemba, Dabra, Muten Roshi, Mr.Satan, Dr.Gero, Great Saiyaman/Videl, etc and I'm not even counting anyone from the ToP because it's so recent.

How I feel about the first DLC will be heavily affected by how the Base Saiyans play, if they go lazy and have them share normals and attacks bar exceptions with their other versions then I won't be happy.

[Kunzait_83]

If we are really going deep into "who did it first", then gotta mentoin:
https://youtu.be/niZDqSwmxBc?t=815
Which was probably the base idea for Captain Commando's team attack, because they somewhat function like a sentai hero team.

That Sentai series is from the early 2000s (*checks Google*: 2001). MvC1 was 1998. Soooo... yeah, that's totally wrong. Unless there's an older Sentai series with that same attack that I'm not thinking of (entirely possible) then Captain Commando, of the examples presented here anyway, is the one with first dibs on this.

Honestly though, I'm sure there's plenty of older pre-MvC examples of attacks like this one in tons of Japanese media: the particular example you provided just ain't one of them.

[Ranmaru Rei]

In general, I don't like that we have 3 versions of Goku and 3 versions of Vegeta, it is too much. In general, it could be just Vegeta and Goku with reach movelist and transformations, maybe. Something like SFV Necalli, for instance.
Also, I don't want Android 17, actually. It would be better to rework Android 18 instead, making them into real duo with ability to switch characters on the fly. Actually, I don't know, but it is, IMHO,stupid to have Android 17 as assisst for Android 18 and as separate character.
Btw, Tien, IMHO, need rework. It is the worst character, moveset desing wise. He has a lot of moves in canon and they choosed just few of them. Z2 Team is making better version Tien. Just look this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd2BEg0jOb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Sy1yxa6hI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPbqUVY0GvM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg_FEasgaCU
Chiaotzu has more moves. Tien has more moves. He even has four arms and multiform as supers.

[TheShadowEmperor8055]

If Goku is using the Genki Dama (which I think is very likely) and Vegeta is transforming into a Great Ape (less likely, but could happen), then I understand why a base Goku and Vegeta are there, given they've only been shown to use those techniques in their base form. Otherwise, there isn't any point in them from my perspective.

Judging from the trailer for SSGSS Vegetto, I'm guessing SS Vegetto likely won't be a thing in this game. Their hypothetical movesets wouldn't be significantly different enough, given SSGSS Vegetto is already using some of the moves and poses he used against Buu while SS. I could be totally wrong though.

Speaking about SSGSS Vegetto, I really hope there will be a special interaction between him and Beerus in the game. That wasn't present in Xenoverse 2 (though Beerus had a special interaction with SS4 Gogeta praising the latter's power), not to mention Beerus never met Vegetto in Super.

[Logania]

Nothing makes me more irritated than Kid Buu with lag in this game. Ok connection with him is annoying due to his ridiculous mix-ups, but with lag I almost threw my controller. It's impossible to try and predict him at that point, all hope is lost.

[Bullza]

Well I've finally gone ahead and bought the game. Got it for £27 brand new and sealed off of Ebay. That price might end up being too good to be true so hopefully it's all genuine and everything.

And I also hope the game is good in general. I just finished up with Xenoverse 2. Not a bad game but the fighting is a bit repetitive.

[KayDash]

If Goku is using the Genki Dama (which I think is very likely) and Vegeta is transforming into a Great Ape (less likely, but could happen), then I understand why a base Goku and Vegeta are there, given they've only been shown to use those techniques in their base form. Otherwise, there isn't any point in them from my perspective.

The reason why I'm not disappointed by their inclusion (while I'd also like Janemba, Dabura or even Android 20) is that they actually have a 7-8 of moves from the 23rd Tournament/Saiyans/Namek sagas which the SSJ/SSB versions don't have, and knowing ArcSys I'm 100% sure they will walk the extra mile to implement most of them.
Other then those moves, they can give Goku an 8-way flight (like Zamasu) with the Kintoun. They have far more material to work with this time, then with the SSBs.

Btw, I had a post back then, when Ginyu is revealed that game now basically has all of Buyū Retsuden's roster.
With Vegetto's announcement, now we also have Hyper Dimension's!


(also, the only one left from Xtreme Butoden is S̶o̶n̶i̶c̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶H̶e̶d̶g̶e̶h̶o̶g̶ Raditz, but it's unlikely to see him in S1 DLC.)

[ShadowBardock89]

(also, the only one left from Xtreme Butoden is S̶o̶n̶i̶c̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶H̶e̶d̶g̶e̶h̶o̶g̶ Raditz, but it's unlikely to see him in S1 DLC.)

It still chaffs me that the only character from Extreme Butoden not in this game is my favorite character.
Hopefully, he will be in Season 2 (there is no reason why this game will not have Season 2 DLC).

[majinwarman]

Now that it has been a four months, do anyone believe that this game can last past a year in its lifetime? Do you think in two years you will continue to play this game ?

Absolutely. Fighting games with solid fundamentals that encourage learning and growth are played for many, many years. It's fun to play, it's fun to win, it's fun to lose, it's fun to experiment, it's fun to chill out with, and it's fun to share with people.

I'm glad that you enjoy the game. I love playing the game even though I suck at it.

[jeffbr92]

With Vegetto's announcement, now we also have Hyper Dimension's!
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No as we don't have Majin Vegeta, yet.

[Bullza]

So how hard is this game to get the Platinum Trophy for? I've been able to get the Platinum for a few like Ultimate Tenkaichi and Xenoverse 2 but then not Raging Blast or Xenoverse.

Is it hard or time consuming?

[YonedgeHP]

So how hard is this game to get the Platinum Trophy for? I've been able to get the Platinum for a few like Ultimate Tenkaichi and Xenoverse 2 but then not Raging Blast or Xenoverse.

Is it hard or time consuming?

It requires some skill and good internet connection.

[Logania]

So how hard is this game to get the Platinum Trophy for? I've been able to get the Platinum for a few like Ultimate Tenkaichi and Xenoverse 2 but then not Raging Blast or Xenoverse.

Is it hard or time consuming?

It won't be hard really except 2 trophies.

Getting a BP score of 530,000 on Ranked Matches and earning 20,000,000 zeni total.

For the BP, if you have the fundamentals (or if you ride that meta) it shouldn't be too difficult, I plan on finishing it pretty soon when Vegito comes out.

For the zeni however...You are going to grind. A lot. You can do all Story Modes on easy and hard mode, do all challenges, tutorials, arcade AND Z Union bonuses and get only around 2,500,000-3,000,000. It's why I'm gonna wait until a potential update that makes getting zeni easier, or wait for little events that they give you zeni (like celebrating DLC pack 1 gave people 300,000 zeni for free, I hope they do that for all characters)

[Bullza]

I think I'd heard it was a real grind to get the 20 million.

Might not Plat this one then.

[FortuneSSJ]

For the zeni however...You are going to grind. A lot. You can do all Story Modes on easy and hard mode, do all challenges, tutorials, arcade AND Z Union bonuses and get only around 2,500,000-3,000,000. It's why I'm gonna wait until a potential update that makes getting zeni easier, or wait for little events that they give you zeni (like celebrating DLC pack 1 gave people 300,000 zeni for free, I hope they do that for all characters)

I'm waiting for an update that gives me the 18,000,000 Zeni that I'm missing to platinum this.

[jeffbr92]

Merged Zamasu stats are better than the overall roster?