What a strange relationship... now how the hell do we explain Trunks?penguintruth wrote:What's great about Drummond's Vegeta is that he sounds like he's completely in love with his own voice.
Sorry, I couldn't resist, hahahaha!
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What a strange relationship... now how the hell do we explain Trunks?penguintruth wrote:What's great about Drummond's Vegeta is that he sounds like he's completely in love with his own voice.
MY HOLY GRAIL (110% Serious. Please sell me one)Mayuri Kurotsuchi wrote:"In this world, nothing perfect exists. It may be a cliche after all but it's the way things are. That's precisely why ordinary men pursue the concept of perfection, it's infatuation. But ultimately I have to ask myself "What is the true meaning of being perfect?" and the answer I came up with was nothing. Not one thing. The truth of the matter is I despise perfection! If something is truly perfect, that's IT! The bottom line becomes there is no room for imagination! No space for intelligence or ability or improvement! Do you understand? To men of science like us, perfection is a dead end, a condition of hopelessness. Always strive to be better than anything that came before you but not perfect! Scientist's agonize over the attempt to achieve perfection! That's the kind of creatures we are! We take joy in trying to exceed our grasp, in trying to reach for something that in the end, we have to admit may in fact be unreachable!"
Well, he was also Zechs Merquise from Gundam Wing, and IIRC, he sounded pretty smooth.batistabus wrote:Yeah, I get that. Drummond's a really good actor. However, the only roles of his I'm familial with are Vegeta and Ryuk; both of whom he voices with a scratchy voice. I wonder if he'd be able to portray it as well while sounding more natural.
What I should have said was it it added a bit of uniqueness to the character, and yes I agree with what your saying, Jeice was likely given the accent at random, I just don't see the need to remove it just because no other character exhibits a similar character trait. If they are using actual script translations this time around, I could see the accent causing a bit of a problem, either way I wouldn't be pissed off if the accent goes.KingofWisdom wrote:But it's pretty inconsistent. If you think about it, most of the aliens learned English/Japanese not from Earth, so why is Jeice the only one with an accent?
Edit: I guess a better way to phrase that would be that if all these characters learned the same language in different parts of the universe, and if you believe Jeice's accent(s) adds depth to the show, then most of the aliens should logically have accents too. So clearly that wasn't part of the reasoning for Jeice's English voices.
-Saffron has been working on Inuyasha Final act and Nana, I see her returning as GohanGonstead wrote: There's an old rumor going around about someone named Brian Kingsley who was cast for Goku and Nappa, but I'm highly doubtful of it.
As for VA's who I'd want to stay...
- Scott McNeil as Piccolo and Jeice (Confirmed)
- Brian Drummond as Vegeta
- Alec Willows as Burter
- Ian Corlett/Peter Kelamis as Goku (Hopeful but highly unlikely)
VA's I want replaced...
- Alistair Abell as Trunks (Too old sounding)
- Dale Wilson as Cell (Absolutely terrible)
- Don Brown as Shenron (Too much gravel throaty sounding. Doug Parker works better)
- Don Brown as Mr Satan (Too high pitched)
- Richard Newman as Porunga (Sounds too much like his Rhinox from Beast Wars)
- Terry Klassan as Master Roshi (Sounds like a terrible impersonation of his Krillin)
- Terry Klassan as Krillin (His original performance in the 1 - 53 dub was decent but his later performance went down the drain)
- Jillian Michaels as Gohan (Far too Girly, not enough Boy to the voice)
The rest I could honestly care less about.
I should've mentioned the reasoning behind my statement.VegettoEX wrote: I'd say the triple-canibalization (quadruple, if you count the orange bricks still on my Target and Best Buy shelves) of having competing products on the market is having a far larger effect.
I think you're just making up an argument you want to be valid.
Perhaps the British empire didn't do as good a job to keep the English language in sync as they should've. The change occurred more in the way the language is spoken rather than how the words are pronounced but it can be successfully argued that the British English accents are closer to the original English than any other English accents around the world.TripleRach wrote:I know where the language originated from, and it still doesn't matter. Hundreds of years of separation from the British Empire, along with a few oceans, have created perfectly valid regional variants of English throughout the world. Blame the ancient Englishmen for spreading the language around and not being able to force it to stay in sync with UK English. The British don't exactly speak Old English, either, so there's been plenty of change everywhere.
American accents are foreign to the British.TripleRach wrote:But yes, British accents absolutely are foreign to Canadians and Americans, because that's not how they speak normally, and it's unique to a country hundreds of miles (or kilometers) away. Obviously everyone has an accent of some sort, and this whole argument has been about whether to put on different accents or not.
"Adopted"? You make it sound like Native Americans went to the UK and decided to take the language. But no, the reason English is spoken in the Americas is because the British physically went there and brought the language with them. There was no "adopting"; the colonists and their descendants just kept their native language. It was as much their language as it was for the people who stayed in the UK. Americans and Canadians can trace their lineage back to the Anglo-Saxon era just as well as people who still live in the UK. The geographic origin doesn't change the fact that English is now a native language for the US and Canada, so they have as much right to call British accents foreign as they do Australian accents or Singaporean accents.RazorX wrote:American accents are foreign to the British.
When you go to another country you're a foreigner, when you take someone else's language and change pronunciations around, you created a foreign accent of said language.
The point is, someone from a country which adopted another country's language, calling the accents of the original country with the original language foreign is an oxymoron, it's false, it's actually those people from the adoptive language country who have the foreign accents. If there's a problem, blame those who lived centuries ago for not keeping the pronunciations in sync.
I'm highly doubtful that you'll be able to do that because this Ocean Kai dub is likely to be a TV-only dub and the audio will be mixed only in stereo. You need a 5.1ch audio track to extract voices. (Well, there is a way to delete the music from a stereo track, but It's really, really too much of a bother to do it to a whole episode. It takes almost 20 to 30 minutes to delete only one piece of music.)RazorX wrote:In the worst case scenario if Ocean use Kikuchi I might replace the music with Yamamoto myself.
Probably but then again you never know. also to do a rescore you need to be really good with audio manipulation software, if you are then you might stand a chance of succeedingkei17 wrote:I'm highly doubtful that you'll be able to do that because this Ocean Kai dub is likely to be a TV-only dub and the audio will be mixed only in stereo.RazorX wrote:In the worst case scenario if Ocean use Kikuchi I might replace the music with Yamamoto myself.
I agree 5.1ch audio is the best way of doing something like score replacement because with 5.1 you can just get rid of the music and still have the voices and sfx intact the only drawback however is how you have to manually cut certain parts, adjust the music's volume, place the music in the right spots, and you have to do this for each music track to make it sound like the original (I'm working on episode 53 trying to make a yamamoto rescore that's more faithful to the original broadcast release so I speak from experience.)kei17 wrote:You need a 5.1ch audio track to extract voices.
Mind sending me a pm on how to do this cause i'm curious about how it's done.kei17 wrote:(Well, there is a way to delete the music from a stereo track, but It's really, really too much of a bother to do it to a whole episode. It takes almost 20 to 30 minutes to delete only one piece of music.)
Mind sending me a pm on how to do this cause i'm curious about how it's done.[/quote]kei17 wrote:(Well, there is a way to delete the music from a stereo track, but It's really, really too much of a bother to do it to a whole episode. It takes almost 20 to 30 minutes to delete only one piece of music.)
Read this topic: http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... =7&t=18989(Well, there is a way to delete the music from a stereo track, but It's really, really too much of a bother to do it to a whole episode. It takes almost 20 to 30 minutes to delete only one piece of music.)
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
The thing is though is that the Funimation actors have had more time to adapt into the roles and improve upon the old in the redubs and video games.TheBlackPaladin wrote:Well I think it might be fair to keep in mind that, for every actor we may not be thrilled about returning, it's entirely possible that they have improved. I mean, I'm sure many of you will agree that many of the returning actors from FUNimation improved dramatically in the Kai dub over their performances in the Z dub. It's entirely possible that the same event will take place with the Ocean dub of Kai.
MY HOLY GRAIL (110% Serious. Please sell me one)Mayuri Kurotsuchi wrote:"In this world, nothing perfect exists. It may be a cliche after all but it's the way things are. That's precisely why ordinary men pursue the concept of perfection, it's infatuation. But ultimately I have to ask myself "What is the true meaning of being perfect?" and the answer I came up with was nothing. Not one thing. The truth of the matter is I despise perfection! If something is truly perfect, that's IT! The bottom line becomes there is no room for imagination! No space for intelligence or ability or improvement! Do you understand? To men of science like us, perfection is a dead end, a condition of hopelessness. Always strive to be better than anything that came before you but not perfect! Scientist's agonize over the attempt to achieve perfection! That's the kind of creatures we are! We take joy in trying to exceed our grasp, in trying to reach for something that in the end, we have to admit may in fact be unreachable!"
Are you trying to make me feel a loss of hope Gonstead?Gonstead wrote:The thing is though is that the Funimation actors have had more time to adapt into the roles and improve upon the old in the redubs and video games.TheBlackPaladin wrote:Well I think it might be fair to keep in mind that, for every actor we may not be thrilled about returning, it's entirely possible that they have improved. I mean, I'm sure many of you will agree that many of the returning actors from FUNimation improved dramatically in the Kai dub over their performances in the Z dub. It's entirely possible that the same event will take place with the Ocean dub of Kai.
The Ocean cast however hasn't touched anything Dragon Ball since Z ended. When's the last time any of them actually have spoken in the roles? A few conventions and some over 9000's here and there, but that's all about it really.
*Evil cackle*Attitudefan wrote:Are you trying to make me feel a loss of hope Gonstead?Gonstead wrote:The thing is though is that the Funimation actors have had more time to adapt into the roles and improve upon the old in the redubs and video games.TheBlackPaladin wrote:Well I think it might be fair to keep in mind that, for every actor we may not be thrilled about returning, it's entirely possible that they have improved. I mean, I'm sure many of you will agree that many of the returning actors from FUNimation improved dramatically in the Kai dub over their performances in the Z dub. It's entirely possible that the same event will take place with the Ocean dub of Kai.
The Ocean cast however hasn't touched anything Dragon Ball since Z ended. When's the last time any of them actually have spoken in the roles? A few conventions and some over 9000's here and there, but that's all about it really.
You bring up a good point but remember, a good actor can adapt quickly and get the hang of their roles fast! I think this will be an all-or-nothing for Ocean with the fans.
MY HOLY GRAIL (110% Serious. Please sell me one)Mayuri Kurotsuchi wrote:"In this world, nothing perfect exists. It may be a cliche after all but it's the way things are. That's precisely why ordinary men pursue the concept of perfection, it's infatuation. But ultimately I have to ask myself "What is the true meaning of being perfect?" and the answer I came up with was nothing. Not one thing. The truth of the matter is I despise perfection! If something is truly perfect, that's IT! The bottom line becomes there is no room for imagination! No space for intelligence or ability or improvement! Do you understand? To men of science like us, perfection is a dead end, a condition of hopelessness. Always strive to be better than anything that came before you but not perfect! Scientist's agonize over the attempt to achieve perfection! That's the kind of creatures we are! We take joy in trying to exceed our grasp, in trying to reach for something that in the end, we have to admit may in fact be unreachable!"
MY HOLY GRAIL (110% Serious. Please sell me one)Mayuri Kurotsuchi wrote:"In this world, nothing perfect exists. It may be a cliche after all but it's the way things are. That's precisely why ordinary men pursue the concept of perfection, it's infatuation. But ultimately I have to ask myself "What is the true meaning of being perfect?" and the answer I came up with was nothing. Not one thing. The truth of the matter is I despise perfection! If something is truly perfect, that's IT! The bottom line becomes there is no room for imagination! No space for intelligence or ability or improvement! Do you understand? To men of science like us, perfection is a dead end, a condition of hopelessness. Always strive to be better than anything that came before you but not perfect! Scientist's agonize over the attempt to achieve perfection! That's the kind of creatures we are! We take joy in trying to exceed our grasp, in trying to reach for something that in the end, we have to admit may in fact be unreachable!"
Was there anything to that effect back when the Westwood dub (aka the "Post-Saban Ocean Dub") of DBZ started airing? I don't recall because I live in the U.S., but I vaguely remember that no official announcement was made, and that one day the Westwood dub just started playing without anything in the way of an "official" announcement.Gonstead wrote:I just want some sort of official confirmation.
Not like what Scott McNeil and Kirby Morrow have said but an actual confirmation on this dub being produced either by Ocean or the company behind funding the dub.