Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:26 pm

I suppose I haven't actually answered the question yet...
yes, I absolutely do. Maybe it's just the early Boo saga, or something, but I was watching box 6, and it was so Goddamn boring, I couldn't sit through more than one episode at once. The only other time I thought it was that bad was during the Freeza fight. During the Z Saiyan saga, I could probably marathon 5-7 whole episodes at once. I then ordered the seventh VizBig, and probably won't even watch the Z Boo saga. I'll probably just go: original DB, Kai, Z VizBigs 7-9, GT. (And of course I'll get all the VizBigs eventually.)

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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by OzzyApu » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:19 pm

For completeness, I would prefer having the Boo saga than just having it finish off at the Cell arch. A less abrupt, anti-climactic ending with the Cell ending, yes, but there's enough left out that makes me want the Boo saga. There's so much to cut and refine, and as it is the saga is padded like hell. For the hell of it, I went ahead and made my own cuts to the saga, but of course I have no real budget and studio to work with. Holding me over for a real refresher? Sure, but that's a far cry.

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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by dprez » Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:40 am

Yes I do. Why leave it out? It doesn't make much sense....
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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by BrodieK41 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:13 am

Part of me would like to see Kai air the Buu arc so it could complete the series but at this point, I'm so exhausted with Kai that I think the franchise would be better off taking a break and this is coming from someone who loves the Buu arc.

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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by Jackal puFF » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:55 am

They really should add in Buu. But I can survive without it. Imagine having to deal with the same tedious music again! No way!

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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by Hades » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:09 am

I would love to see the Buu Saga get the Kai Treatment. But I think the main problem will probably be finding a new composer, since you can't really use the original score or the replacement.
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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by Rukura » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:05 am

Even with the Boo arc, Kai would always be an incomplete product. Yeah, they missed the final arc...but they also the beginning...and everything between the beginning and where Kai took off.

I don't want a Boo saga Kai. I want a Dragon Ball: Brotherhood, where everything is as close to the manga as possible. (And with new character designs and animation, not the same thing we already have)
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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:26 am

Rukura wrote:Even with the Boo arc, Kai would always be an incomplete product. Yeah, they missed the final arc...but they also the beginning...and everything between the beginning and where Kai took off.

I don't want a Boo saga Kai. I want a Dragon Ball: Brotherhood, where everything is as close to the manga as possible. (And with new character designs and animation, not the same thing we already have)
Toei Animation needs to come up with a brand new story/series with brand new characters (maybe a Son Goku Junior) and let Dragon Ball Z die already.

I know, make Dragon Ball Heroes into an anime series, have a Goku Junior in it, new music composer (Takaki) and everyone's happy.

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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by Rukura » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:39 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:Toei Animation needs to come up with a brand new story/series with brand new characters (maybe a Son Goku Junior) and let Dragon Ball Z die already.

I know, make Dragon Ball Heroes into an anime series, have a Goku Junior in it, new music composer (Takaki) and everyone's happy.

No need for TA to go back to the 89's.
You're saying what Toei was thinking in the 90's. Then they made Dragon Ball GT. (kinda did worse than Kai)

Here's what they need to do: Neko Majin OVAs, for God's sake already. Animate the crossover with One Piece. Then they can either re-animate everything (like a normal animation company. Like they should've done with Kai) and later make a new story with the stuff we've seen from Heroes (maybe buy Toriyama Mount Fuji to convince him to write a new story for it), or go straight to the new stuff and make something with the Heroes concept. (Although, I seriously question how far one can go with that, when it's 90% pre-existing characters but whatever)
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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by Hades » Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:22 pm

Actually, what I'd want apart from a kaified buu, is a special around Majin Buu's creation. Before the legend of the Super Saiyan, there was Buu.
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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by matt0044 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:44 pm

Wasn't the original animation used for Kai to respect the animators of DBZ (I hear some died)?

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Post by kei17 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:57 pm

matt0044 wrote:Wasn't the original animation used for Kai to respect the animators of DBZ (I hear some died)?
They reused the footage simply because it's a cheaper way.

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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by Son Geeko » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:14 am

Only for the sakes of a Buu Saga redub. I never really liked Kai, just because it was nothing more but a quick, cheap, and lazy money grab.

Would've been much better if it was new animation, the FUNimation dub was really what made the series great for me IMO.

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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:52 am

Son Geeko wrote:Only for the sakes of a Buu Saga redub. I never really liked Kai, just because it was nothing more but a quick, cheap, and lazy money grab.

Would've been much better if it was new animation, the FUNimation dub was really what made the series great for me IMO.
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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:46 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
Son Geeko wrote:Only for the sakes of a Buu Saga redub. I never really liked Kai, just because it was nothing more but a quick, cheap, and lazy money grab.

Would've been much better if it was new animation, the FUNimation dub was really what made the series great for me IMO.
Have you seen the Namek and Freeza arc on Blu-ray? It looks gorgeous and the music helps a lot too.
Personally I think it looks crappy, and the music doesn't matter because it's all being replaced in the new sets anyway.

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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by penguintruth » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:19 pm

If there was a Kai'd version of the Buu arc, I wonder if they could get Kikuchi to compose brand new music.
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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by Gonstead » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:22 pm

penguintruth wrote:If there was a Kai'd version of the Buu arc, I wonder if they could get Kikuchi to compose brand new music.
I wouldn't mind if they just used previously scored Kikuchi pieces for Z in Kai as long as they were placed decently so they don't sound repeptitive like in Kai.
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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:25 pm

penguintruth wrote:If there was a Kai'd version of the Buu arc, I wonder if they could get Kikuchi to compose brand new music.
The tunes he composed for Dr. Slump and Arale-chan, plus the DBZ films sounded very cinematic imo.

It'd be interesting to listen to new Kikuchi 2012 tracks.

But... Why would Toei Animation do such thing? Using proper BGMs for Boo's arc from DBZ would just be perfectly fine, I would've preferred if Kai had more Boo BGMs for Saiyan-Cell's arc, which it didn't.
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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by matt0044 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:05 am

I wish that FUNi (with Toei's approval) redubbed the Buu Saga from Z to fit in with Kai (dub wise). Hell, I wish Dragon Ball would get redubbed as well to meet the standards of good dubs today.

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Re: Do you really want a Buu Saga in Kai?

Post by Gonstead » Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:03 am

matt0044 wrote:I wish that FUNi (with Toei's approval) redubbed the Buu Saga from Z to fit in with Kai (dub wise). Hell, I wish Dragon Ball would get redubbed as well to meet the standards of good dubs today.
Technically, they can do that if they wanted and practically anything else too since they own the license for the series.

But they know better than to tamper with something that could ultimately fail. Besides, the Buu Saga's dub is alright on it's own really along with Dragon Ball's.
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