Buu Saga Kai

[Fizzer]

Wait, even if SSJ2 Son Goku versus Pure Buu is filler... why would anyone be sad about it being kept? That fight is UNBELIEVABLY WELL DONE. It's one of the best fights in the saga.

Well, the ridiculous string of fights starting with Gotenks vs Super Buu does need cutting down a hell of a lot.

[MagicBox]

Wait, even if SSJ2 Son Goku versus Pure Buu is filler... why would anyone be sad about it being kept? That fight is UNBELIEVABLY WELL DONE. It's one of the best fights in the saga.

I love the whole sequence as well, but I can understand why some people would want it cut. The whole point of Kai was that it was supposed to be closer to the manga. That means cutting out (both good and bad) filler. It's not like the original scenes in "Z" are going anywhere.

That's what I would say, but Kai has kept such a pitiful amount of filler that I just don't care anymore. Bring on the extra scenes, I say.

[Naruto6583]

Wait, even if SSJ2 Son Goku versus Pure Buu is filler... why would anyone be sad about it being kept? That fight is UNBELIEVABLY WELL DONE. It's one of the best fights in the saga.

I love the whole sequence as well, but I can understand why some people would want it cut. The whole point of Kai was that it was supposed to be closer to the manga. That means cutting out (both good and bad) filler. It's not like the original scenes in "Z" are going anywhere.

That's what I would say, but Kai has kept such a pitiful amount of filler that I just don't care anymore. Bring on the extra scenes, I say.

I cant wait to see how the fusion of vegito will be scored

[Kid Buu]

Wait, even if SSJ2 Son Goku versus Pure Buu is filler... why would anyone be sad about it being kept? That fight is UNBELIEVABLY WELL DONE. It's one of the best fights in the saga.

Because the whole point of Kai is to remove all filler, not "remove some filler so we can cut the total amount of episodes in half" that we got.

[RandomGuy96]

SSJ2 Son Goku versus Pure Buu is filler...

Bingo.

I also find it hard to enjoy fights that have no purpose, like when one or both combatants are heavily holding back.

[KaiserNeko]

I suppose that, since the fight was so well done and enjoyable, it didn't matter to me that the actual event was filler. Especially considering it merely expanded upon the overall battle, instead of cutting into it and distracting from it, like a lot of filler.

I just remember seeing it for the first time and really enjoying it. I never came across to me as pointless, just because of how into it I was. Didn't even know it was filler until... well, within the last two years actually.

[Storm]

Yeah. I think people get caught up on what's filler and what isn't too much, considering that most everyone watched the show fine when it first aired not knowing the difference.

If you want a 100% filler free experience, the manga's waiting for you.

Because the whole point of Kai is to remove all filler, not "remove some filler so we can cut the total amount of episodes in half" that we got.

That's kind of an arbitrary designation, though. Toei decided what they wanted to do with the show when they made it. Besides, removing literally all filler would result in often badly paced scenes, as storytelling through manga and storytelling through animation are two very different ball games.

[B]

That's kind of an arbitrary designation, though. Toei decided what they wanted to do with the show when they made it. Besides, removing literally all filler would result in often badly paced scenes, as storytelling through manga and storytelling through animation are two very different ball games.

Right, I don't think the people crying "They left this in whaaaaat" really grasp that it's not a simple hack-and-slash job you could do in Windows Movie Maker. A lot of this stuff is "woven" into manga material, and just out-and-out cutting what isn't in the manga would leave you with something incredibly sloppy.

[Kid Buu]

I understand that some padding as to stay so it doesn't look sloppy and episodes can actually end of a cliffhanger, but by the Cell arc it felt like they were keeping in too much padding.

I like SSJ2 Goku/Pure Buu too, and that's why I own the original Dragon Ball Z (hell, I own this arc twice!). Well let's see what Kai keeps and doesn't.

[Fizzer]

They were keeping what they felt strongly tied into and improved what was already there, like Goku's hallucinations in his fight against Freeza and the hunt for first-form Cell, both of which I love. The manga really does feel kind of skeletal in comparison. They also keep things that can't be removed without reanimating huge sequences, like half the Cell games if they'd cut out Mr Satan's students.

[TheAldella]

They were keeping what they felt strongly tied into and improved what was already there, like Goku's hallucinations in his fight against Freeza and the hunt for first-form Cell, both of which I love. The manga really does feel kind of skeletal in comparison. They also keep things that can't be removed without reanimating huge sequences, like half the Cell games if they'd cut out Mr Satan's students.

Goku had hallucinations? Wut? Please refresh my memory.

[ABED]

Goku has a hallucination of Vegeta. It's before he begins forming the Genkidama.

[Fizzer]

Goku has a hallucination of Vegeta. It's before he begins forming the Genkidama.

There's also the part where he's drowning and he sees everyone back on earth calling out to him.

[ABED]

Goku has a hallucination of Vegeta. It's before he begins forming the Genkidama.

There's also the part where he's drowning and he sees everyone back on earth calling out to him.

I don't think that qualifies. That's more of a dream as Goku's unconscious.

[Big Momma]

Goku has a hallucination of Vegeta. It's before he begins forming the Genkidama.

There's also the part where he's drowning and he sees everyone back on earth calling out to him.

I don't think that qualifies. That's more of a dream as Goku's unconscious.

It still fits the realm of "things Goku sees in his mind that no one else can."

[Cold Skin]

So, people got to hear what the new opening is like out there according to the news, cause the group performed it live.
But apparently, recording was not allowed, so there's no actual way to hear Kuu-Zen-Zetsu-Go for now (just a few low-quality seconds you may hear during the filmed preview, which is better than nothing I guess).

It seems to be full of energy, with a rhythm and sound a bit similar to Hero (Song of Hope). At least, judging from that low-quality "filmed preview"...

[TonyTheTiger]

AH, they spelled "Freeza" with an "I" again!

Does this happen often? I wonder if the relationship between FUNimation and Toei is growing so strong that they're actively working to standardize the material.

[Avenged]

Hmm I wonder when Toei will officially release the new promo. Has there even been any commercials in Japan? We're only about two weeks away from the premiere...

[Storm]

AH, they spelled "Freeza" with an "I" again!

Does this happen often? I wonder if the relationship between FUNimation and Toei is growing so strong that they're actively working to standardize the material.

It's happened in a video game at least once. I think the given assumption is whoever is in charge of romaji just looked Freeza's name up on the English site.

And I hope that's not the case. The I spelling is terrible.

[RandomGuy96]

Didn't a recent English video game (or more) also use "Evil Buu" instead of "Super Buu"?