"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[VegettoEX]

The episode titles can be changed too remember that, this may be just to trick us.

While there's certainly precedent for episode titles changing slightly between some print publication promotion and its actual airing, there's zero benefit to them tossing out red herrings to that degree. That's just not going to happen and it's not the case here.

[namekiansaiyan]

seriously why do people think piccolo will get beaten easily The reason why he is in the tournament is probably because he will win a match

[dbzfan7]

seriously why do people think piccolo will get beaten easily The reason why he is in the tournament is probably because he will win a match

Not necessarily true. Yamcha was in every TB tourny, and he always lost in every first round. Piccolo could very well be used to demonstrate how powerful and skilled Frost is. Considering it's teased Frost has more forms, I highly doubt Piccolo is going to win. At best he could potentially do well against form 1. Heck the last time he was in a tourney, he forfeited to showcase Kaioshin both in rank and ability.

[namekiansaiyan]

seriously why do people think piccolo will get beaten easily The reason why he is in the tournament is probably because he will win a match

Not necessarily true. Yamcha was in every TB tourny, and he always lost in every first round. Piccolo could very well be used to demonstrate how powerful and skilled Frost is. Considering it's teased Frost has more forms, I highly doubt Piccolo is going to win. At best he could potentially do well against form 1. Heck the last time he was in a tourney, he forfeited to showcase Kaioshin both in rank and ability.

Thats the problem toriyama should not use characters to show how strong a character is
the reason i think he will win is beacuse it could have been a 4 vs 4 and then still have buu fail the test to leave universe 7 at a disadvantage and why would he put in a character who has not had a decent fight since the androids to just get beaten easily when we know piccolo as of right now is a lot weaker then vegeta and goku so it wont show how strong frost is.

Also why is everyone assuming frost will have multiple transformations and be super strong just because he is the same race as frieza.
This is the same for other characters everyone assumes cabe, hit and frost will be powerful while botamo and magetta will be weak based on race and looks alone all you have to do is look at monaka.

[kinisking]

So I'm going to post my prediction. I think goku will fight against frost and severely weaken him before losing. Then it'll basically be piccolo's job to finish him off with a special beam cannon in his weak spot. That way it doesn't seem bullshit that piccolo won because frost will be severely weakened and wont seem bullshit that goku lost so early because he did a lot of work by beating botamo and almost beating frost. What do you guys think?

[Speedster]

I predict that Botamo's special tenchique is to inflate himself like Cell in order to force Goku out of the ring in a similar manner Froug tried to do against Maraikoh in the Other World Tournament. The fact that there is an unbreakable dome as a ceiling and that you cannot kill your opponent are factors. So my prediction is that Goku ends up bursting/killing Botamo and therefore gets disqualified.

[namekiansaiyan]

So I'm going to post my prediction. I think goku will fight against frost and severely weaken him before losing. Then it'll basically be piccolo's job to finish him off with a special beam cannon in his weak spot. That way it doesn't seem bullshit that piccolo won because frost will be severely weakened and wont seem bullshit that goku lost so early because he did a lot of work by beating botamo and almost beating frost. What do you guys think?

as long as piccolo wins then the tournament will be interesting

[dbzfan7]

seriously why do people think piccolo will get beaten easily The reason why he is in the tournament is probably because he will win a match

Not necessarily true. Yamcha was in every TB tourny, and he always lost in every first round. Piccolo could very well be used to demonstrate how powerful and skilled Frost is. Considering it's teased Frost has more forms, I highly doubt Piccolo is going to win. At best he could potentially do well against form 1. Heck the last time he was in a tourney, he forfeited to showcase Kaioshin both in rank and ability.

Thats the problem toriyama should not use characters to show how strong a character is
the reason i think he will win is beacuse it could have been a 4 vs 4 and then still have buu fail the test to leave universe 7 at a disadvantage and why would he put in a character who has not had a decent fight since the androids to just get beaten easily when we know piccolo as of right now is a lot weaker then vegeta and goku so it wont show how strong frost is.

Also why is everyone assuming frost will have multiple transformations and be super strong just because he is the same race as Freeza.
This is the same for other characters everyone assumes cabe, hit and frost will be powerful while botamo and magetta will be weak based on race and looks alone all you have to do is look at monaka.

The title of the episode he's in even further suggests he probably won't win. "Bet Everything on the Makankosappo". That's not a good sign if a title to his fight is a last ditch effort move.

Also we've read the bio's. Frost's bio teases he might have more transformations, which likely means he does have some more forms. Cabba's bio questioned how strong he was, and Hit also had some description of being strong. Botamo was only listed as being confident in his strength, which usually isn't a good description to mean they're powerful. Magetta's bio listed that he may have some interesting techniques, which teases he may rely more on tricks than raw power.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Assuming it does end in a tie, instead of Botamo winning and then Piccolo quickly winning against a worn out opponent,... They made a point to note that Botamo doesn't have hair, despite looking like a bear. I'm going to guess that it will end with a gag, where Botamo makes himself super slippery and then accidentally trips and knocks both himself and Goku out of the ring.

[Sodhi]

Does this reveal anything?

[Chuquita]

Are they popping bubble-wrap in that 4 panel comic? XD

Also; NewType is out so hopefully soon full staff info should appear!

[namekiansaiyan]

The title of the episode he's in even further suggests he probably won't win. "Bet Everything on the Makankosappo". That's not a good sign if a title to his fight is a last ditch effort move.

Also we've read the bio's. Frost's bio teases he might have more transformations, which likely means he does have some more forms. Cabba's bio questioned how strong he was, and Hit also had some description of being strong. Botamo was only listed as being confident in his strength, which usually isn't a good description to mean they're powerful. Magetta's bio listed that he may have some interesting techniques, which teases he may rely more on tricks than raw power.

There will be a surprise win so why not piccolo winning he might have a new power or attack that he will use after the special beam cannon. Remember piccolo only usually fights when he knows he can put up a good fight and there is probably another reason why he did not want to train with goku and vegeta and not just because he cant keep up i think he is hiding something from them and he got this new power or attack while training with gohan

[dbzfan7]

The title of the episode he's in even further suggests he probably won't win. "Bet Everything on the Makankosappo". That's not a good sign if a title to his fight is a last ditch effort move.

Also we've read the bio's. Frost's bio teases he might have more transformations, which likely means he does have some more forms. Cabba's bio questioned how strong he was, and Hit also had some description of being strong. Botamo was only listed as being confident in his strength, which usually isn't a good description to mean they're powerful. Magetta's bio listed that he may have some interesting techniques, which teases he may rely more on tricks than raw power.

There will be a surprise win so why not piccolo winning he might have a new power or attack that he will use after the special beam cannon. Remember piccolo only usually fights when he knows he can put up a good fight and there is probably another reason why he did not want to train with goku and vegeta and not just because he cant keep up i think he is hiding something from them and he got this new power or attack while training with gohan

He's fighting because he wants to, that's pretty much it. The title has the same indication to it as Goku's Genki Dama. It's a last ditch effort move. He's betting everything in that one attack. That title makes no sense if that's not the final decisive moment. He simply says he can't keep up with them. Piccolo is not the kind of person who likes to be a show off, or hide something for no reason. That's Gotenks. You can believe there's a possibility for something else, but I do not see anything that suggests he'll get anything better than 1st form Frost.

[namekiansaiyan]

The title of the episode he's in even further suggests he probably won't win. "Bet Everything on the Makankosappo". That's not a good sign if a title to his fight is a last ditch effort move.

Also we've read the bio's. Frost's bio teases he might have more transformations, which likely means he does have some more forms. Cabba's bio questioned how strong he was, and Hit also had some description of being strong. Botamo was only listed as being confident in his strength, which usually isn't a good description to mean they're powerful. Magetta's bio listed that he may have some interesting techniques, which teases he may rely more on tricks than raw power.

There will be a surprise win so why not piccolo winning he might have a new power or attack that he will use after the special beam cannon. Remember piccolo only usually fights when he knows he can put up a good fight and there is probably another reason why he did not want to train with goku and vegeta and not just because he cant keep up i think he is hiding something from them and he got this new power or attack while training with gohan

He's fighting because he wants to, that's pretty much it. The title has the same indication to it as Goku's Genki Dama. It's a last ditch effort move. He's betting everything in that one attack. That title makes no sense if that's not the final decisive moment. He simply says he can't keep up with them. Piccolo is not the kind of person who likes to be a show off, or hide something for no reason. That's Gotenks. You can believe there's a possibility for something else, but I do not see anything that suggests he'll get anything better than 1st form Frost.

your assuming frost is strong and also has strong transformations which i do not see any evidence for this and I'm assuming piccolo has got stronger. Both asumptions have no concrete evidence. you said the title is similar to goku's spririt bomb then this must be one powerful special beam cannon and because frost is not a main villain or something then it will most likely work and beat him

[Chuquita]

Woah! Getting a whole month of King Ryû! They're writing 31 & 32 too!

Spoiler:

and

[dbzfan7]

your assuming frost is strong and also has strong transformations which i do not see any evidence for this and I'm assuming piccolo has got stronger. Both asumptions have no concrete evidence. you said the title is similar to goku's spririt bomb then this must be one powerful special beam cannon and because frost is not a main villain or something then it will most likely work and beat him

Frost's Bio

“…Huh!? This guy looks familar…!!” If that’s what you were thinking, then you’re right on the money!! This guy is the emperor of Universe 6, and has something to hide!! Does that mean this is his first form…!?

It teases he has more forms. Why bother with that tease if he doesn't? They simply could have ended it at he has something to hide, but then tease this could be his first form. So my assumptions have some weight. Piccolo getting stronger is likely true, but definitely not at any drastic level. He probably powered up somewhat with Gohan, but not at anything near Goku or Vegeta. Considering he himself deny's to train with Goku and Vegeta, he has no confidence to reach their level and only be a complete burden to them. My assumptions have some basis as highlighted by bios and statements. You may hope for such an event, but right now nothing really points to a massive boost for him. His battle title alone suggests if his attack fails, he's done for.

[namekiansaiyan]

your assuming frost is strong and also has strong transformations which i do not see any evidence for this and I'm assuming piccolo has got stronger. Both asumptions have no concrete evidence. you said the title is similar to goku's spririt bomb then this must be one powerful special beam cannon and because frost is not a main villain or something then it will most likely work and beat him

Frost's Bio

“…Huh!? This guy looks familar…!!” If that’s what you were thinking, then you’re right on the money!! This guy is the emperor of Universe 6, and has something to hide!! Does that mean this is his first form…!?

It teases he has more forms. Why bother with that tease if he doesn't? They simply could have ended it at he has something to hide, but then tease this could be his first form. So my assumptions have some weight. Piccolo getting stronger is likely true, but definitely not at any drastic level. He probably powered up somewhat with Gohan, but not at anything near Goku or Vegeta. Considering he himself deny's to train with Goku and Vegeta, he has no confidence to reach their level and only be a complete burden to them. My assumptions have some basis as highlighted by bios and statements. You may hope for such an event, but right now nothing really points to a massive boost for him. His battle title alone suggests if his attack fails, he's done for.

i think the transformation might not be what his hiding because that is what everyone is expecting and they surely would not say it in his bio either.
i have been thinking what about if piccolo is losing but pulls out a surprise stretchy arm and gets a ring out and thats why we saw it when hr was training with gohan (this is probably somethimg no one has thought of )

[alakazam^]

It teases he has more forms. Why bother with that tease if he doesn't?

Well, everyone is expecting him to transform like Freeza so it would be a twist if he doesn't.

Does this reveal anything?

Spoiler:

Not really, it's just promotional fluff. And yes, they are popping bubble-wrap.

Woah! Getting a whole month of King Ryû! They're writing 31 & 32 too!

Spoiler:

and

#31 - Bulma wants to gather Universe 7's Super Dragon Balls by herself to oppose Beers' violent ways. She planned to call Jaco and ask him to take her to the center of the Universe but got turned down.

(Different summary) Bulma plans to gather the Super Dragon Balls that apparently are in Universe 7 first and oppose the violent ways of Universe 7's Hakaishin Beers. But, in order to do that, she needs to go to the center of the Universe and use the Radar. She calls Jaco, the Galactic Patrolman, and asks him but gets told that it's impossible to go to the center of the Universe. But Jaco says, "Zunou, the all-knowing, might know a lot about the Super Dragon Balls".

#32 The tournament starts! Everyone goes to the "Nameless Planet"! - It's the day of the tournament. Goku and the others ride in a cube and join with Beers and Monaka. They see the 6 Super Dragon Balls when going to the Nameless Planet and get astonished by their planet-like size.

(Different summary) The day of the martial arts tournament held by the Hakaishins of Universe 6 and 7 has finally arrived. Son Goku and the gang ride in the cube prepared by Whis, Beers' attendant, stop by Beers' planet and arrive at the "Nameless Planet", where the ring is at. There, everyone gets surprised by the unbelievable size of the currently gathered Super Dragon Balls.

#33 - The first match of the martial arts tournament is Goku VS Botamo, from Universe 6. But, immediately after starting the match, Goku can't put his mind to it because he ate too much. He somehow pulled himself together but, no matter what attacks Goku uses, Botamo isn't fazed in the least.

[derpgoku]

^^so pretty much after botamo reveal his technique like in the manga goku won't be able to do anything to him

[namekiansaiyan]

#31 - Bulma wants to gather Universe 7's Super Dragon Balls by herself to oppose Beers' violent ways. She planned to call Jaco and ask him to take her to the center of the Universe but got turned down.

(Different summary) Bulma plans to gather the Super Dragon Balls that apparently are in Universe 7 first and oppose the violent ways of Universe 7's Hakaishin Beers. But, in order to do that, she needs to go to the center of the Universe and use the Radar. She calls Jaco, the Galactic Patrolman, and asks him but gets told that it's impossible to go to the center of the Universe. But Jaco says, "Zunou, the all-knowing, might know a lot about the Super Dragon Balls".

#32 The tournament starts! Everyone goes to the "Nameless Planet"! - It's the day of the tournament. Goku and the others ride in a cube and join with Beers and Monaka. They see the 6 Super Dragon Balls when going to the Nameless Planet and get astonished by their planet-like size.

(Different summary) The day of the martial arts tournament held by the Hakaishins of Universe 6 and 7 has finally arrived. Son Goku and the gang ride in the cube prepared by Whis, Beers' attendant, stop by Beers' planet and arrive at the "Nameless Planet", where the ring is at. There, everyone gets surprised by the unbelievable size of the currently gathered Super Dragon Balls.

#33 - The first match of the martial arts tournament is Goku VS Botamo, from Universe 6. But, immediately after starting the match, Goku can't put his mind to it because he ate too much. He somehow pulled himself together but, no matter what attacks Goku uses, Botamo isn't fazed in the least.

so basically goku must lose if piccolo vs frost is the next episode and so probably botamo loses to piccolo