Noah wrote:Nero<>Akira wrote:Considering GT is a sequel and side story to the original adaptations of the manga, it by default makes it non canon. that's how it works. Battle of Gods and F are both officially canon and continue the story in the 10 year gap. The events of Super that happen after the retellings of canon events are a continuation of those official canon stories. I don't really need a chart to show me what's canon when knowing how continuity works as well as what's been said about these stories. Noah uses the weak argument that just because the events that have happened in Super aren't mentioned in the last 2 chapters of the manga, which happen YEARS before the ending, then it doesn't matter and therefore aren't canon. By that logic, any lack of referencing from what's come before in Super never happens in it's own body of stories; same with the manga.
Sorry to bust your bubble, but none of the events of Super are mentioned in the original manga, so just as GT is also non canon.
I don't know about this logic, it doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
The events of Super are occurring before EOZ, them not being mentioned does not contradict anything. Never mind the fact that Super wasn't even a thing in Toriyama's mind when he ended the manga. GT occurs after EOZ, so it couldn't be mentioned in story anyway.
We also get a noncanon depiction of Hell in GT, while we get an official look at it in Super through Frieza (which comes from Toriyama himself). Furthermore, GT contradicts many things happening in Super right now, such as Goku defaulting to SSJ3 in stead of using a god form against Baby, or Vegeta never using SSB against his opponents in GT. And these probably won't be the last contradictions. Again, it hurts more for GT because it happens
after the events of Super. Goku going off to train Uub doesn't contradict anything happening in Super so far.
GT is noncanon, while Super, which comes from Toriyama himself (he allows Toyo/Toei creative freedom; he encourages it really), is definitely canon. Or at least it's more "canon" than GT.