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by TekTheNinja » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:16 am
Nekis13 wrote:Really dislike this notion of "Fodder" and "Fodderizing" this fandom has picked up lately. Not everyone is going to be as strong as SSB Goku and Vegeta.
Well they should be. The fact that they aren't is boring as fuck. If they ain't even close, yes they're fodder. If Goku could just turn blue and flick someone out of the arena, why are they even there? That just makes them dead weight.
Of course I'm not saying we shouldn't use the weaker characters, as I'm one of the biggest advocates of character relevancy, but I AM saying that they should get POWERED. THE FUCK. UP. It would be so easy to just give allies a new boost or transformation or kaioken or something and just make enemies start off stronger, rather than being characters Frieza could have killed all the way back on Namek.
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by Kaiosama » Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:23 am
My prediction is that Frieza or Frost (or both), will defect to Universe 4 (look at that shot in the preview between Quitela and Beerus. Universe 4 has an ace up it's sleeve). Master Roshi will attempt to use Mafuba on Frost, but then Frost will take control of it and use it to trap Vegeta and possibly eliminate him. Roshi dies in the attempt to stop Frost. Zeno starts to allow killing. Frieza betrays Universe 7. Frost perhaps betrays Universe 6. Vegeta eliminates Magetta before going out.
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by GodKaio-Ken » Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:05 am
So I'm I'm thinking if Jiren can predict movement, perhaps moving without thinking will play a role finally and Whis training will matter for once.
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by Ki Breaker » Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:10 am
GodKaio-Ken wrote:So I'm I'm thinking if Jiren can predict movement, perhaps moving without thinking will play a role finally and Whis training will matter for once.
How does him predicting stuff have connections to moving without thinking?
Unless you mean he predicts by moving without thinking and Goku will have do it now as well to win?
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by GodKaio-Ken » Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:19 am
Ki Breaker wrote:GodKaio-Ken wrote:So I'm I'm thinking if Jiren can predict movement, perhaps moving without thinking will play a role finally and Whis training will matter for once.
How does him predicting stuff have connections to moving without thinking?
Unless you mean he predicts by moving without thinking and Goku will have do it now as well to win?
I mean its possible he reads intention rather than just movement. Sort of like "I know what you're about to do or about to go"
I dont don't know if you've seen any Yu-Gi-Oh ever, but it reminds me of a scene where Yugi draws/plays cards without looking at them to counter his opponents ability to read his mind/cards.
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by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:33 am
Image from Goku vs Jiren fight...!
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Jiren is just too speedy, snuck up behind Goku ready to left hook him. Goku can't even use Shunkan Idō to catch him! Whoa.
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by perucho1990 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:59 am
First batch of spoilers
ドラゴンボール超」
107話「復活の『F』!しかけられた狡猾な罠!?」
界王神フワはフロストに、第7宇宙の戦士を倒すように命令を下す。
フロストは第6宇宙が優勝したら自分の罪を帳消しにし、再び事業を始めるための
資金の援助をしてもらうことを条件に、その命令を快諾。さっそくフロストは亀仙人を狙う。
108話「フリーザとフロスト!交わる悪意!?」
フリーザは次の対戦相手を探していた。一方、悟飯はジーミズを相手に苦戦を強いられていた。
痛めつけられる悟飯をニヤニヤしながら眺めているフリーザを見て、第7宇宙の面々は
フリーザが裏切るのではないかと不信感を抱く。
109話「悟空に迫る最強の敵!今こそ放て!必殺の元気玉!!」
悟飯が苦戦する一方、孫悟空とリブリアンの戦闘も続いていた。自分が全宇宙の人類に
愛される女神になるために「力の大会」で優勝したいリブリアンは、全力で悟空を攻撃する。
そんな中、これまで力を温存していた第11宇宙のジレンがついに動き出し、悟空の前に現れる。
ジレンは考えられないような膨大な気で悟空をはじめ戦士たちを圧倒する。
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by JazzMazz » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:09 am
perucho1990 wrote:First batch of spoilers
ドラゴンボール超」
107話「復活の『F』!しかけられた狡猾な罠!?」
界王神フワはフロストに、第7宇宙の戦士を倒すように命令を下す。
フロストは第6宇宙が優勝したら自分の罪を帳消しにし、再び事業を始めるための
資金の援助をしてもらうことを条件に、その命令を快諾。さっそくフロストは亀仙人を狙う。
108話「フリーザとフロスト!交わる悪意!?」
フリーザは次の対戦相手を探していた。一方、悟飯はジーミズを相手に苦戦を強いられていた。
痛めつけられる悟飯をニヤニヤしながら眺めているフリーザを見て、第7宇宙の面々は
フリーザが裏切るのではないかと不信感を抱く。
109話「悟空に迫る最強の敵!今こそ放て!必殺の元気玉!!」
悟飯が苦戦する一方、孫悟空とリブリアンの戦闘も続いていた。自分が全宇宙の人類に
愛される女神になるために「力の大会」で優勝したいリブリアンは、全力で悟空を攻撃する。
そんな中、これまで力を温存していた第11宇宙のジレンがついに動き出し、悟空の前に現れる。
ジレンは考えられないような膨大な気で悟空をはじめ戦士たちを圧倒する。
Though I'm no expert, I think we can all get a general idea of what's going to happen.
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Frost is promised redemption and financial support if he wins the tournament and he sets his eyes on Roshi.
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Universe 7 is distrusting of Freeza, espicially as his enjoying Gohan getting the crap kicked out of him by the universe 2 Yadrat.
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I'm pretty sure it's Ribrianne who challenges Goku(could be wrong about this), and Jiren finally does something which even Goku is suspectible to.
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by Ki Breaker » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:14 am
JazzMazz wrote:
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Universe 7 is distrusting of Freeza, espicially as his enjoying Gohan getting the crap kicked out of him by the universe 2 Yadrat.
Yeah......No..
Cauliflowa kicked the Yadrat away like a joke without even transforming and Gohan is getting crap kicked out of him?
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by HeroR » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:16 am
Ki Breaker wrote:JazzMazz wrote:
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Universe 7 is distrusting of Freeza, espicially as his enjoying Gohan getting the crap kicked out of him by the universe 2 Yadrat.
Yeah......No..
Cauliflowa kicked the Yadrat away like a joke without even transforming and Gohan is getting crap kicked out of him?
Cali also caught him off-guard.
Kanassa wrote:precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.
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by Kanassa » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:17 am
JazzMazz wrote:perucho1990 wrote:First batch of spoilers
ドラゴンボール超」
107話「復活の『F』!しかけられた狡猾な罠!?」
界王神フワはフロストに、第7宇宙の戦士を倒すように命令を下す。
フロストは第6宇宙が優勝したら自分の罪を帳消しにし、再び事業を始めるための
資金の援助をしてもらうことを条件に、その命令を快諾。さっそくフロストは亀仙人を狙う。
108話「フリーザとフロスト!交わる悪意!?」
フリーザは次の対戦相手を探していた。一方、悟飯はジーミズを相手に苦戦を強いられていた。
痛めつけられる悟飯をニヤニヤしながら眺めているフリーザを見て、第7宇宙の面々は
フリーザが裏切るのではないかと不信感を抱く。
109話「悟空に迫る最強の敵!今こそ放て!必殺の元気玉!!」
悟飯が苦戦する一方、孫悟空とリブリアンの戦闘も続いていた。自分が全宇宙の人類に
愛される女神になるために「力の大会」で優勝したいリブリアンは、全力で悟空を攻撃する。
そんな中、これまで力を温存していた第11宇宙のジレンがついに動き出し、悟空の前に現れる。
ジレンは考えられないような膨大な気で悟空をはじめ戦士たちを圧倒する。
Though I'm no expert, I think we can all get a general idea of what's going to happen.
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Frost is promised redemption and financial support if he wins the tournament and he sets his eyes on Roshi.
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Universe 7 is distrusting of Freeza, espicially as his enjoying Gohan getting the crap kicked out of him by the universe 2 Yadrat.
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I'm pretty sure it's Ribrianne who challenges Goku(could be wrong about this), and Jiren finally does something which even Goku is suspectible to.
Also, seemed Ribrianne has been promised being made a Godess of sorts for winning, and somebody's special ability is overwhelming Goku
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Kanassa wrote:FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
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by Chuquita » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:18 am
Ribrianne wants to become a goddess? Nothing wrong with setting your sights high; though knowing what I do about Sailor Moon and Precure, I wonder if that's just the term for her final form.
Will wait for confirmation that the text is true and will wait for Herms' translation.
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by pacz360 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:18 am
Ki Breaker wrote:JazzMazz wrote:
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Universe 7 is distrusting of Freeza, espicially as his enjoying Gohan getting the crap kicked out of him by the universe 2 Yadrat.
Yeah......No..
Cauliflowa kicked the Yadrat away like a joke without even transforming and Gohan is getting crap kicked out of him?
He was off guard not to mention we don't know any of his techniques
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by Kanassa » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:19 am
HeroR wrote:Ki Breaker wrote:JazzMazz wrote:
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Universe 7 is distrusting of Freeza, espicially as his enjoying Gohan getting the crap kicked out of him by the universe 2 Yadrat.
Yeah......No..
Cauliflowa kicked the Yadrat away like a joke without even transforming and Gohan is getting crap kicked out of him?
Cali also caught him off-guard.
And the Yardrat easily recovered within a second with no damage implied.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Kanassa wrote:FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017
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by perucho1990 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:21 am
YonkouProd translations
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Will Goku go full Genkidama mode like Trunks did?
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by Ki Breaker » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:29 am
Kanassa wrote:HeroR wrote:Ki Breaker wrote:
Yeah......No..
Cauliflowa kicked the Yadrat away like a joke without even transforming and Gohan is getting crap kicked out of him?
Cali also caught him off-guard.
And the Yardrat easily recovered within a second with no damage implied.
I will just assume Goku is a bloody liar when he said Yadrat's aren't that strong..
Frankly speaking, this guard dropping nonsense is simply a paper thin way to justify plot, Tien's sneak kikoho did Jack shit against buu, someone affected by casual kick from base cauliflowa shouldn't be able to do anything to the level of power Gohan posses..
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by incarnati0n » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:31 am
perucho1990 wrote:YonkouProd translations
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Will Goku go full Genkidama mode like Trunks did?
Didn't really understand the spirit bomb reference there since how could Goku aven gather the energy in that place?
Gohan struggling makes sense since Instant Transmission is one of the most op techiniques ever introduced in the series, this also will keep him away from Jiren since the way the summary is wrote it looks like he will start cleaning house real soon.
Ki Breaker wrote:
I will just assume Goku is a bloody liar when he said Yadrat's aren't that strong..
Frankly speaking, this guard dropping nonsense is simply a paper thin way to justify plot, Tien's sneak kikoho did Jack shit against buu, someone affected by casual kick from base cauliflowa shouldn't be able to do anything to the level of power Gohan posses..
Nowhere is it implied that he is stronger than Gohan, just that Gohan is struggling which is most likely caused because of IT.
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by Ki Breaker » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:33 am
perucho1990 wrote:YonkouProd translations
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Will Goku go full Genkidama mode like Trunks did?
Spirit bomb?
Where is he drawing energy for it..
Last time it took almost everything around him he can manage to take down buu..
So Jiren stores ki? That's pretty interesting, explains all the not talking he has been doing for the tournament
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by HeroR » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:33 am
Ki Breaker wrote:Kanassa wrote:HeroR wrote:
Cali also caught him off-guard.
And the Yardrat easily recovered within a second with no damage implied.
I will just assume Goku is a bloody liar when he said Yadrat's aren't that strong..
Frankly speaking, this guard dropping nonsense is simply a paper thin way to justify plot, Tien's sneak kikoho did Jack shit against buu, someone affected by casual kick from base cauliflowa shouldn't be able to do anything to the level of power Gohan posses..
Except Vegeta and Freeza said the same thing about the Yadrats. And we don't know a thing about this one from U2.
Tien also didn't sneak attack Buu. The one attack he tried to land on Buu. The 'sneak' attack you're thinking of was only used to deflect Buu's blast aways from Dende.
Kanassa wrote:precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.