"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Michsi]

I believe, if DBS will long go after ToP, the next arcs won't be set on Earth till EoZ, because Bulma in EoZ said that she have not seen Goku for 5 years.

I thinks others mentioned bulma exaggerating the whole 5 Year thing like saying when u meet a family member and acting like its been decade's since you seen th even though it was less or something

Isn't it Goku that says that though, and Bulma just confirms it? At least that's how I remember it from the manga, forgot if they changed that in the anime.

[HeroR]

Hate dbm bra huh? Can't Say I blame you though

She's like the textbook definition of Jerkass Sue. She's what crazy Vegeta fans want Vegeta to be like. A spoiled, powerful brat who everyone wanks and can literally get a way with murder. I find Multiverse Vegetto bearable compared to her, even he's also a Sue.

The only character I want out of Multiverse is U16/U18 Gohan if given a choice.

[Ranmaru Rei]

Isn't it Goku that says that though, and Bulma just confirms it? At least that's how I remember it from the manga, forgot if they changed that in the anime.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

[Boo Machine]

I thought it was already agreed upon that the "Haven't seen you in 5 years" bit is just a throw away line that shouldn't be taken seriously when it comes to Super. (Or did I just have that meeting in my head?) They aren't going to write the entire series around this one thing Bulma said when Toriyama thought he was done with it.

I think we can just assume a "retcon".

[ArchedThunder]

I understand. A show without Goku isn't DB. A Next gen is just gonna be boring cliché shonen, Gohan wasn't MC cuz he was boring af, there is a reason why Toei still had Goku as MC in GT probably realised he is DB.

For someone who didn't even like the idea of people speculating about the end of Super that's a weird assumption to make. It all comes down to character and writing, just because Goku isn't the main character doesn't mean it will be cliche shonen. Some of my favorite parts of DB are when Goku isn't there.
Besides, Goku doesn't have to be taken out of the picture to have a focus on the next generation.

[pacz360]

Isn't it Goku that says that though, and Bulma just confirms it? At least that's how I remember it from the manga, forgot if they changed that in the anime.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Wouldn't be surprised if they recton the scene

[HeroR]

I understand. A show without Goku isn't DB. A Next gen is just gonna be boring cliché shonen, Gohan wasn't MC cuz he was boring af, there is a reason why Toei still had Goku as MC in GT probably realised he is DB.

For someone who didn't even like the idea of people speculating about the end of Super that's a weird assumption to make. It all comes down to character and writing, just because Goku isn't the main character doesn't mean it will be cliche shonen. Some of my favorite parts of DB are when Goku isn't there.
Besides, Goku doesn't have to be taken out of the picture to have a focus on the next generation.

It would only work if it's like Duck Tales with Goku being like Scrooge, imo.

[pacz360]

I thought it was already agreed upon that the "Haven't seen you in 5 years" bit is just a throw away line that shouldn't be taken seriously when it comes to Super. (Or did I just have that meeting in my head?) They aren't going to write the entire series around this one thing Bulma said when Toriyama thought he was done with it.

I think we can just assume a "retcon".

Pretty much it was written when Toriyama was Done with db

[Ranmaru Rei]

lol, new series will be about Goku and Vegeta Jrs. I'm joking.

[pacz360]

Hate dbm bra huh? Can't Say I blame you though

She's like the textbook definition of Jerkass Sue. She's what crazy Vegeta fans want Vegeta to be like. A spoiled, powerful brat who everyone wanks and can literally get a way with murder. I find Multiverse Vegetto bearable compared to her, even he's also a Sue.

The only character I want out of Multiverse is U16/U18 Gohan if given a choice.

Pretty much lol bra should be a mix of her mother and vegeta tbh

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I understand. A show without Goku isn't DB. A Next gen is just gonna be boring cliché shonen, Gohan wasn't MC cuz he was boring af, there is a reason why Toei still had Goku as MC in GT probably realised he is DB.

For someone who didn't even like the idea of people speculating about the end of Super that's a weird assumption to make. It all comes down to character and writing, just because Goku isn't the main character doesn't mean it will be cliche shonen. Some of my favorite parts of DB are when Goku isn't there.
Besides, Goku doesn't have to be taken out of the picture to have a focus on the next generation.

Errrr no, I didn't /don't like people speculating about the end of DBS because the BD Box has one freaking extra episode...

[Boo Machine]

I mean, I'm not AGAINST the idea of the next generation. But any interest I had in that went out the window the minute Goku came back from death. So while I'd give it a shot, I'd rather stick with Goku as the main man. Half the fun shit wouldn't happen if he wasn't around.

[namekiansaiyan]

Isn't it Goku that says that though, and Bulma just confirms it? At least that's how I remember it from the manga, forgot if they changed that in the anime.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Toriyama is not going to let himself be restricted by one line he could easily change.

[Ranmaru Rei]

Toriyama is not going to let himself be restricted by one line he could easily change.

Yeah. Especially, he can forget, how he already did about Lauch.

[Michsi]

Well, yeah. It might be a throw away line. Then again, it might not be, if we think about that whole "making sure it fits with EOZ" idea they seem so keen on. I was pointing out that it wasn't Bulma exaggerating here. It seems to be that they legitimately didn't see each other for five years. This scene was probably to show once again how flighty Goku is where his relationship with his friends is concerned, but back then people also assumed that he had also not met with Vegeta for that long too (which was why he came along with Bulma). You can find a way to write around Bulma and Goku not seeing each other for five years, but that's not going to work the other fighting characters.

Toriyama is not going to let himself be restricted by one line he could easily change.

Not saying he would, or he should, only that he made sure to mention that EOZ is still gonna happen like it was depicted. Saw the quote from the interview not too long ago, that's why it got me thinking.

[emperior]

Maybe they want to make a new Dragon Ball show that starts from when Goku leaves with Uub, and that's why they are ending Super at episode 133? But honestly I don't think that's the case, as it would be stupid to suddenly dump the Super brand unless Toriyama stops writing it.
Though if a new show really happens that would be their chance to actually make it look really good, so better designs, better shading, better colors and backgrounds like in the 2008 special.

[Simere]

I've never seen that scene in the manga before(not allowed to post illegally hosted scans here, by the way). Is that translation accurate? Because it's actually saying it's been five years since Goku decided to visit them, not five years since he's seen them.

"We'd never see you if we didn't drop in on you."
"That's not true. I visited you five years ago."

"If we didn't drop in on you" actually implies they've seen him more recently than that.

[Jaden]

Does anyone have the japanese romaji lyrics of the full version of limit break or will it take some time until someone makes one?

[pacz360]

I understand. A show without Goku isn't DB. A Next gen is just gonna be boring cliché shonen, Gohan wasn't MC cuz he was boring af, there is a reason why Toei still had Goku as MC in GT probably realised he is DB.

For someone who didn't even like the idea of people speculating about the end of Super that's a weird assumption to make. It all comes down to character and writing, just because Goku isn't the main character doesn't mean it will be cliche shonen. Some of my favorite parts of DB are when Goku isn't there.
Besides, Goku doesn't have to be taken out of the picture to have a focus on the next generation.

Errrr no, I didn't /don't like people speculating about the end of DBS because the BD Box has one freaking extra episode...

Same here people need to chill out with that stuff especially with the whole supers ending crap

[TheMikado]

I understand. A show without Goku isn't DB. A Next gen is just gonna be boring cliché shonen, Gohan wasn't MC cuz he was boring af, there is a reason why Toei still had Goku as MC in GT probably realised he is DB.

For someone who didn't even like the idea of people speculating about the end of Super that's a weird assumption to make. It all comes down to character and writing, just because Goku isn't the main character doesn't mean it will be cliche shonen. Some of my favorite parts of DB are when Goku isn't there.
Besides, Goku doesn't have to be taken out of the picture to have a focus on the next generation.

It would only work if it's like Duck Tales with Goku being like Scrooge, imo.

But they've already setup the scenario perfectly, They gave Future Trunks a crappy unsatisfying ending. It's the perfect opportunity to make a "time patrol" spin off. It's perfect because Trunks could travel to any point in time in any universe. It gives Future Trunks and Mai something to do other than exist and I doubt it's a coincidence they survived as a team.