GodKaio-Ken wrote:Fair enough. Does it say that is the ONLY requirement because that isnt how its portrayed at all.
What other requirements are there that the U6 Saiyans didn't fulfill?
Also Vegeta was the strongest Saiyan alive. By definition he was already beyond the average Saiyan...which is a very vague range considering most were weaker than Nappa it would seem and an average is always moving.
This isn't how it works. Even if Vegeta was the current strongest Saiyan, he was still within regular Saiyan levels. This isn't defined by the currently alive Saiyans, it is defined by the nature of the Saiyan race.
Plus Goten and Trunks in base werent at the level of Namek Goku when they gained SSJ.
Goten & Trunks are stated to be special cases. Check my original post again.
Okora wrote:I thought Whis also implied that super saiyan wasn't all that uncommon in the past.
What? When did Whis imply that?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
MagmonKai wrote:Lol, so Vegeta who is on par with Goku is supposed to lose to Ribrianne an unknown fighter from universe 2? I would hope he would at least be taken out by someone we know is on Goku's level like Toppo. Guys, I don't really see why people think he's going to fall to her. Maybe it's going to be an intense battle, but I don't see him falling to her.
The answer is simple. Some guys here just want Vegeta to be ringed out so badly that they come up with various theories which can prove their point. I don't even like Vegeta that much but I can't really understand the hate for him, lol. He is quite interesting character in comparison to those lackluster guys we have in the TOP.
The better question is - how big is that arena they're fighting on? Shouldn't be there...I dunno, more cramped or sth?
SansrivaaL wrote:Eh ok 17 thats a minus points from me, you dont go attacking someone in the middle of transforming! it wont be entertaining if you take her out like that you noob.
Er... What? A lot of people criticize the main heroes for waiting their enemies transform instead of attacking them from the start. I like that #17 don't give a damn about Brianne and her Teletubbie form, it makes things looks realistic. Hope he gives her a good spanking.
TheSaiyanGod wrote:Can anyone confirm if these synopses are real? Strange no one has spoken of them. I do not know who posted
Episodes 102 - 104
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All these are so predictable that it's lame, hope it's fake. Also I don't think U4 will be erased so easily.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
GodKaio-Ken wrote:Fair enough. Does it say that is the ONLY requirement because that isnt how its portrayed at all.
What other requirements are there that the U6 Saiyans didn't fulfill?
Also Vegeta was the strongest Saiyan alive. By definition he was already beyond the average Saiyan...which is a very vague range considering most were weaker than Nappa it would seem and an average is always moving.
This isn't how it works. Even if Vegeta was the current strongest Saiyan, he was still within regular Saiyan levels. This isn't defined by the currently alive Saiyans, it is defined by the nature of the Saiyan race.
Plus Goten and Trunks in base werent at the level of Namek Goku when they gained SSJ.
Goten & Trunks are stated to be special cases. Check my original post again.
Okora wrote:I thought Whis also implied that super saiyan wasn't all that uncommon in the past.
What? When did Whis imply that?
1) I'm not saying they shouldnt have gotten in. I'm saying it should have taken longer than ten seconds.
2) How do we know what the average Saiyan level is? Its an assumption either way.
3) If there are special cases it isnt a requirement because the rule has been violated.
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GodKaio-Ken wrote:I'm not saying they shouldnt have gotten in. I'm saying it should have taken longer than ten seconds.
Why? They have already trained their asses through the years, and they were told how to do it.
How do we know what the average Saiyan level is? Its an assumption either way.
It's not an assumption, the manga stated it's between 30.000 & 60.000. The U6 Saiyans are far beyond that level.
If there are special cases it isnt a requirement because the rule has been violated.
Only for Goten & Trunks.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Is he fucking prancing through the stage? I imagine 'Sunshine, lolipops and.." playing in the background
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
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FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
#17 will whoop some rear ends in the upcoming episode (except for Pride Troopers he will probably also beat some henchmen) and then get elliminated by Rebrianne. It would be an interesting twist cuz no one expected #17 to go as a #2 but considering how he despised Krillin because of dropping his guard, this can be actually giving his nose a flick.
And also this stupid theory based on some ending that Vegeta goes down as a #3 would fall apart cuz Tien wouldn't be #2 to go down in that case.
Is he... skipping through the ring? with a jolly mcdonalds expression on his face? this has been obvious but there is something very wrong with this dude.
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