Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

[Hakaishin Liquir]

That was months before the tournament though, and Hit could have gotten stronger during that time period (unlike Goku and Vegeta who took a break from training for a few months). Current Hit is comparable to SSBKK Goku if not stronger than him, as seen in episode 111, since Hit was the only person besides UI Goku who could land an effective hit on Jiren, and Jiren himself said that Goku and Hit were the only people that he thought that couldn't be handled by Toppo or Dyspo.

It should able be worth noting that it had already been mentioned before that Caulifla and Kale don't have nearly as much martial arts skill as the likes of Goku, Vegeta, Freeza, Hit, etc. So it would be pretty hard for Kefla to figure out how to counter TS, and Hit should have no problem figuring out her fighting style and the timing of her attacks since he was able to figure out Jiren's, which is how he managed to land a hit on him.

I highly doubt Hit got 20x stronger since 72 and Goku got stronger too in that time frame. And Hit did as well against Jiren because of technquie, not power.

You can outpower your way of Hit’s technquies as Goku did in 39 and Jiren did in 111. Kelfie is also a fast learner since she knows how to counter IT.

Why can't Hit get that strong in a few months? We already know that Hit has a lot of potential, and even people like Krillin and Roshi can randomly get dozens of times stronger in the span of less than a year. Hit is primarily a technique-based fighter, so I don't see the point of not counting his techniques when determining his overall power. Hit is beyond SSB level because of his techniques and his fighting intelligence, even though his pure power level is below SSB. Yes it is true that you can overpower Hit's techniques, but just look at how much Jiren was struggling to move when he was paralyzed by Hit. If someone like Vegeta, Freeza, or even Kefla were caught in that technique they wouldn't be able to move at all since none of them are close to Jiren in terms of power.

Not to mention that Hit can quickly improve in battle, so unless you're significantly stronger than him, he could reach your level or even surpass you during the battle

[Bullza]

UI is most likely a god form.

It might not be, Piccolo can sense Ultra Instinct but he couldn't sense Super Saiyan Blue.

[PerhapsTheOtherOne]

UI is most likely a god form.

It might not be, Piccolo can sense Ultra Instinct but he couldn't sense Super Saiyan Blue.

Heck, even Roshi sensed Goku's energy when he went Ultra Instinct against Jiren, noting how calm it was despite the intense heat he was emitting.

[TheSaiyanGod]

Do you guys think that Kefla can beat Hit?

Yes. Hit at his best is comparable to Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku as seen in 72. Kefla rivals or even surpassed Blue Kaioken.

Why people are taking Piccolo seriously? I mean what he knows about God Ki? Kefla and UI Goku are far beyond his comprehension. He is just talking out of his ass.

They don't have God Ki though.

UI is most likely a god form.

Yes, but Kefla surpassed a Blue Kaioken that was not yet fully recovered.

Of course, we can not say how much Goku was tired after the fight against Jiren, but perhaps an SSB with 100% of power could match the worn Blue Kaioken of the EP 115 (which proved to be much stronger than Kefla SSJ).

I think Kefla is between Blue and Blue Kaioken, being at the same level or stronger than Blue 100%. It's hard to define because we do not know how much Goku was still tired on EP 115 (so we can not measure how strong he would be if he was fully recovered compared to Kefla)

[Bullza]

UI is most likely a god form.

It might not be, Piccolo can sense Ultra Instinct but he couldn't sense Super Saiyan Blue.

Heck, even Roshi sensed Goku's energy when he went Ultra Instinct against Jiren, noting how calm it was despite the intense heat he was emitting.

That's true.

Still I wonder if Piccolo along with Gohan not being able to sense Super Saiyan Blue does anything to suggest they were weaker than Base Goku and Vegeta in the Resurrection F saga what with them being at a level they could sense it.

I suppose they really should be weaker but it would depend if the writers even remember that and were being consistent with it.

[Kenneth La Torre]

Well, Kefla, at her strongest in this episode was capable of gracing goku twice, and it was stated that goku would not be able to take on a blast like that head on. So in terms of pure raw power, a very angry, powered up, ssj2 kefla matched UI goku. Before that attack, its up to debate. I personally see a normal ssj2 kefla above a full powered ssbKK Goku.

[HeroR]

UI is most likely a god form.

It might not be, Piccolo can sense Ultra Instinct but he couldn't sense Super Saiyan Blue.

Heck, even Roshi sensed Goku's energy when he went Ultra Instinct against Jiren, noting how calm it was despite the intense heat he was emitting.

He sensed heat. Even with god ki mortal feel pressure.

Do you guys think that Kefla can beat Hit?

Yes. Hit at his best is comparable to Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku as seen in 72. Kefla rivals or even surpassed Blue Kaioken.

They don't have God Ki though.

UI is most likely a god form.

Yes, but Kefla surpassed a Blue Kaioken that was not yet fully recovered.

Of course, we can not say how much Goku was tired after the fight against Jiren, but perhaps an SSB with 100% of power could match the worn Blue Kaioken of the EP 115 (which proved to be much stronger than Kefla SSJ).

I think Kefla is between Blue and Blue Kaioken, being at the same level or stronger than Blue 100%. It's hard to define because we do not know how much Goku was still tired on EP 115 (so we can not measure how strong he would be if he was fully recovered compared to Kefla)

Except Whis said her power rivaled the Spirit Bomb that surpassed a healthy Blue Kaioken x20 and was before she used Super Saiyan 2.

[HeroR]

Why can't Hit get that strong in a few months? We already know that Hit has a lot of potential, and even people like Krillin and Roshi can randomly get dozens of times stronger in the span of less than a year. Hit is primarily a technique-based fighter, so I don't see the point of not counting his techniques when determining his overall power. Hit is beyond SSB level because of his techniques and his fighting intelligence, even though his pure power level is below SSB. Yes it is true that you can overpower Hit's techniques, but just look at how much Jiren was struggling to move when he was paralyzed by Hit. If someone like Vegeta, Freeza, or even Kefla were caught in that technique they wouldn't be able to move at all since none of them are close to Jiren in terms of power.

Not to mention that Hit can quickly improve in battle, so unless you're significantly stronger than him, he could reach your level or even surpass you during the battle

Krillin and Roshi didn’t get dozens of time stronger in a few months. They build it over time, especially Roshi. Hit also struggled with Dyspo who Goku outpowered in Blue.

Jiren also wasn’t using his full power and the rest is just your assumption.

[PerhapsTheOtherOne]

It might not be, Piccolo can sense Ultra Instinct but he couldn't sense Super Saiyan Blue.

Heck, even Roshi sensed Goku's energy when he went Ultra Instinct against Jiren, noting how calm it was despite the intense heat he was emitting.

He sensed heat. Even with god ki mortal feel pressure.

Check the scene again. He mentions the heat AFTER commenting on the "energy", not the "pressure". The subs on Crunchyroll aren't perfect, but they DO make the distinction between the energy of sensible Ki, and the pressure of God Ki.

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To bring this all back to this thread, I don't think the Ultra Instinct comes with an inherent "power boost" after seeing the latest episode. At the very least, not as massive of one as expected.

[TheSaiyanGod]

It might not be, Piccolo can sense Ultra Instinct but he couldn't sense Super Saiyan Blue.

Heck, even Roshi sensed Goku's energy when he went Ultra Instinct against Jiren, noting how calm it was despite the intense heat he was emitting.

He sensed heat. Even with god ki mortal feel pressure.

Yes. Hit at his best is comparable to Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku as seen in 72. Kefla rivals or even surpassed Blue Kaioken.



UI is most likely a god form.

Yes, but Kefla surpassed a Blue Kaioken that was not yet fully recovered.

Of course, we can not say how much Goku was tired after the fight against Jiren, but perhaps an SSB with 100% of power could match the worn Blue Kaioken of the EP 115 (which proved to be much stronger than Kefla SSJ).

I think Kefla is between Blue and Blue Kaioken, being at the same level or stronger than Blue 100%. It's hard to define because we do not know how much Goku was still tired on EP 115 (so we can not measure how strong he would be if he was fully recovered compared to Kefla)

Except Whis said her power rivaled the Spirit Bomb that surpassed a healthy Blue Kaioken x20 and was before she used Super Saiyan 2.

- If it's just about the Genki Dama's raw energy used in Jiren, so it does not surpass the power of the Goku SSB KK X20 (do you think a little of the energy of just 8 people would do it?).
Really, she was the Goku's trump card (when not even the Kaio-ken x20 work), but we know that this technique works very well in more powerful enemies the user (Goku SSJ was able to push the Genki Dama against Boo , even though Boo himself was superior to Goku SSJ3). Even Gohan was surprised when Jiren was repelling the technique on EP 109, saying something like '' Can he push even with my father having enough energy? ''
Indicating that even Jiren being much stronger than Goku, it should be difficult for him to push the Genki Dama from a fully recovered Goku

- Whis did not necessarily talk about just Kefla having the same amount of energy as the Genki Dama. He said that she incited Goku to use the UI again, as Genki Dama did (the context of this may be that she had the power / ability to do something that only Genki Dama had done, not having exactly as much energy as this technique)

- When Whis compares Genki Dama to Kefla, U6's Saiyajin had not increased its power and was in the same situation as EP 115 when it was weaker than Goku SSB KK tired.
So speaking is like saying that Goku SSB KK also has an energy comparable to that of Genki Dama, which is pretty weird (unless you consider another context for the Whis speech, which I quoted above, would be that Kefla was not compared to Genki Dama in quantity of Ki but in the ability to make Goku use the UI, which makes much more sense).

- - Piccolo just said that she overcame the power used by Goku ''a little while ago'', probably referring to his most recent fight in which he showed his power (EP 115). So she just overcame a tired Kaioken SSB

[Hakaishin Liquir]

Why can't Hit get that strong in a few months? We already know that Hit has a lot of potential, and even people like Krillin and Roshi can randomly get dozens of times stronger in the span of less than a year. Hit is primarily a technique-based fighter, so I don't see the point of not counting his techniques when determining his overall power. Hit is beyond SSB level because of his techniques and his fighting intelligence, even though his pure power level is below SSB. Yes it is true that you can overpower Hit's techniques, but just look at how much Jiren was struggling to move when he was paralyzed by Hit. If someone like Vegeta, Freeza, or even Kefla were caught in that technique they wouldn't be able to move at all since none of them are close to Jiren in terms of power.

Not to mention that Hit can quickly improve in battle, so unless you're significantly stronger than him, he could reach your level or even surpass you during the battle

Krillin and Roshi didn’t get dozens of time stronger in a few months. They build it over time, especially Roshi. Hit also struggled with Dyspo who Goku outpowered in Blue.

Jiren also wasn’t using his full power and the rest is just your assumption.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C5Sb6VqFNQ

Hit was much stronger than Dyspo. Dyspo only did good against Hit at the beginning of 104 because he had intel on Hit's abilities while Hit had no knowledge about Dyspo's abilities. Once they were on an even playing field, Hit dominated him. Hit in this video actually performed better than SSG/SSB Goku did. Just look at this video of Goku vs Dyspo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C5Sb6VqFNQ Goku didn't land a single hit on Dyspo on-screen, and at 2:00 you can see him getting pushed back by Dyspo while Dyspo has a smug look on his face.

At least Krillin got dozens of times stronger in a few months. That episode where Goku reinvigorated Krillin's fighting spirit happened like 2 months before the tournament, and then Krillin got many times stronger by lifting weights in his basement. Another example of a terribly quick jump in power in Gohan after his training session with Piccolo. Gohan got over a hundred times stronger by training with Piccolo for a few hours. This is shown by how base Gohan is doing better than Piccolo currently is despite the fact that Piccolo overpowered SSJ2 Gohan before they trained, and if we highball Gohan's performance against Goku, then he is SSB level.

Sure Jiren was most likely holding back, but there isn't any reason to believe that he was holding back more than he was against Goku pre-UI. I doubt that Jiren would be suppressing his powers to SSB levels of strength while he was struggling to move under Hit's Time Cage. If Jiren was holding back against Hit as much as he was against Goku, then there is definitely no way that people like Vegeta, Freeza, and Kefla can move when Hit is using Time Cage on them.

[Triggered Vegeta]

So how would a SS3 Berserk Kefla fair against UI Goku from ep 116??? Or would it take a mastered UI to get job done?

[Miracles]

There is no way that KKx20Blue Goku was stronger than the previous spirit bomb. If so, Goku would have been able to resist it and especially survive it. But everyone thought he died by his own technique. So it was obvious that Kefla, before going SSJ2, is stronger than KKx20 Blue Goku. This power from Kefla is what triggered UI the same way the Genki Dama did. If Kefla wasn't stronger than the previous version of UI Goku, why did UI Goku power up? He didn't power up in UI before against Jiren.

Piccolo was hoping that Kefla's current power up could continue the theme of inciting UI Goku to power up again. If Piccolo was talking about Kefla only being greater than KKx20 Blue, why would he hope that UI Goku could draw his power out even "FURTHER?" It's obvious Piccolo was talking about former UI Goku being surpassed cause Piccolo wouldn't need a UI Goku to power up just to fight a KKx20 Blue level opponent.
Lets' not forget, Kefla's final attack even cut Goku's hair and nearly grazed his arm. Then Roshi even states UI Goku wouldn't survive if he got hit by the laser show. All this proves even more that Kefla possibly surpassed former UI Goku.

[HeroR]

- If it's just about the Genki Dama's raw energy used in Jiren, so it does not surpass the power of the Goku SSB KK X20 (do you think a little of the energy of just 8 people would do it?).
Really, she was the Goku's trump card (when not even the Kaio-ken x20 work), but we know that this technique works very well in more powerful enemies the user (Goku SSJ was able to push the Genki Dama against Boo , even though Boo himself was superior to Goku SSJ3). Even Gohan was surprised when Jiren was repelling the technique on EP 109, saying something like '' Can he push even with my father having enough energy? ''
Indicating that even Jiren being much stronger than Goku, it should be difficult for him to push the Genki Dama from a fully recovered Goku

- Whis did not necessarily talk about just Kefla having the same amount of energy as the Genki Dama. He said that she incited Goku to use the UI again, as Genki Dama did (the context of this may be that she had the power / ability to do something that only Genki Dama had done, not having exactly as much energy as this technique)

- When Whis compares Genki Dama to Kefla, U6's Saiyajin had not increased its power and was in the same situation as EP 115 when it was weaker than Goku SSB KK tired.
So speaking is like saying that Goku SSB KK also has an energy comparable to that of Genki Dama, which is pretty weird (unless you consider another context for the Whis speech, which I quoted above, would be that Kefla was not compared to Genki Dama in quantity of Ki but in the ability to make Goku use the UI, which makes much more sense).

- - Piccolo just said that she overcame the power used by Goku ''a little while ago'', probably referring to his most recent fight in which he showed his power (EP 115). So she just overcame a tired Kaioken SSB

Why would a Spirit Bomb made to beat Jiren be weaker than a form that Jiren trashed?

Whis said that Kelfia's power rivaled the Spirit Bomb Goku's bathe in. You know, the one that exploded in his face after being compressed.

She was that strong when he kicked Goku, not after that moment.

He could also mean Goku at his peak.

Why can't Hit get that strong in a few months? We already know that Hit has a lot of potential, and even people like Krillin and Roshi can randomly get dozens of times stronger in the span of less than a year. Hit is primarily a technique-based fighter, so I don't see the point of not counting his techniques when determining his overall power. Hit is beyond SSB level because of his techniques and his fighting intelligence, even though his pure power level is below SSB. Yes it is true that you can overpower Hit's techniques, but just look at how much Jiren was struggling to move when he was paralyzed by Hit. If someone like Vegeta, Freeza, or even Kefla were caught in that technique they wouldn't be able to move at all since none of them are close to Jiren in terms of power.

Not to mention that Hit can quickly improve in battle, so unless you're significantly stronger than him, he could reach your level or even surpass you during the battle

Krillin and Roshi didn’t get dozens of time stronger in a few months. They build it over time, especially Roshi. Hit also struggled with Dyspo who Goku outpowered in Blue.

Jiren also wasn’t using his full power and the rest is just your assumption.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C5Sb6VqFNQ

Hit was much stronger than Dyspo. Dyspo only did good against Hit at the beginning of 104 because he had intel on Hit's abilities while Hit had no knowledge about Dyspo's abilities. Once they were on an even playing field, Hit dominated him. Hit in this video actually performed better than SSG/SSB Goku did. Just look at this video of Goku vs Dyspo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C5Sb6VqFNQ Goku didn't land a single hit on Dyspo on-screen, and at 2:00 you can see him getting pushed back by Dyspo while Dyspo has a smug look on his face.

At least Krillin got dozens of times stronger in a few months. That episode where Goku reinvigorated Krillin's fighting spirit happened like 2 months before the tournament, and then Krillin got many times stronger by lifting weights in his basement. Another example of a terribly quick jump in power in Gohan after his training session with Piccolo. Gohan got over a hundred times stronger by training with Piccolo for a few hours. This is shown by how base Gohan is doing better than Piccolo currently is despite the fact that Piccolo overpowered SSJ2 Gohan before they trained, and if we highball Gohan's performance against Goku, then he is SSB level.

Sure Jiren was most likely holding back, but there isn't any reason to believe that he was holding back more than he was against Goku pre-UI. I doubt that Jiren would be suppressing his powers to SSB levels of strength while he was struggling to move under Hit's Time Cage. If Jiren was holding back against Hit as much as he was against Goku, then there is definitely no way that people like Vegeta, Freeza, and Kefla can move when Hit is using Time Cage on them.

Stronger, but not much stronger otherwise Dyspo wouldn't have been able to hurt Hit. And Dyspo never landed a solid hit on Goku, unlike Hit who got several blows. Goku also easily caught Dyspo's attack as a Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. Much easier than Hit.

Krillin got stronger, but we have no context how much stronger and that two months before the tournament is, no offense, a number you made up since no timeframe was ever given. Gohan also got stronger by getting over his mental block. He always had the power within him. Even then, none of these things applies to Hit since he wasn't shown to be stronger than Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku in the TOP.

Why, since he was trying not to kill Hit. He also didn't struggled that hard since he literally crushed Hit's desperate attack with his eyes.

[JazzMazz]

Why can't Hit get that strong in a few months? We already know that Hit has a lot of potential, and even people like Krillin and Roshi can randomly get dozens of times stronger in the span of less than a year. Hit is primarily a technique-based fighter, so I don't see the point of not counting his techniques when determining his overall power. Hit is beyond SSB level because of his techniques and his fighting intelligence, even though his pure power level is below SSB. Yes it is true that you can overpower Hit's techniques, but just look at how much Jiren was struggling to move when he was paralyzed by Hit. If someone like Vegeta, Freeza, or even Kefla were caught in that technique they wouldn't be able to move at all since none of them are close to Jiren in terms of power.

Not to mention that Hit can quickly improve in battle, so unless you're significantly stronger than him, he could reach your level or even surpass you during the battle

Krillin and Roshi didn’t get dozens of time stronger in a few months. They build it over time, especially Roshi. Hit also struggled with Dyspo who Goku outpowered in Blue.

Jiren also wasn’t using his full power and the rest is just your assumption.

So far Jiren has only considered Goku and Hit opponents that he needs to fight, all the other times his interfered has been against fighters that have been causing a ruckus like Kale and Maji Kayo.

Hell, even in this episode, it was only Goku's re-activation of UI that interested Jiren and characters commented that Jiren was only really interested in Goku despite Kelfa being extremely powerful at that point.

This leads me to believe that Jiren isn't really interested in purely powerful opponents, like Kefla for example, but he is fact interested in opponents that may have dangerous abilities and with enough power to back themselves up, like for example Hit, who though not the strongest, had a plethora of dangerous abilities that could have proven dangerous to his other team mates.

[HeroR]

So far Jiren has only considered Goku and Hit opponents that he needs to fight, all the other times his interfered has been against fighters that have been causing a ruckus like Kale and Maji Kayo.

Hell, even in this episode, it was only Goku's re-activation of UI that interested Jiren and characters commented that Jiren was only really interested in Goku despite Kelfa being extremely powerful at that point.

This leads me to believe that Jiren isn't really interested in purely powerful opponents, like Kefla for example, but he is fact interested in opponents that may have dangerous abilities and with enough power to back themselves up, like for example Hit, who though not the strongest, had a plethora of dangerous abilities that could have proven dangerous to his other team mates.

Here's the thing, Hit attacked him just Maji Kayo. When Hit tried to blindside him, Jiren asked Hit what did he want. Not the statement of someone he saw as particularly noteworthy. He didn't even bother to fight Jiren in 104, while he did bother with the Maji Kayo.

Heck, even Roshi sensed Goku's energy when he went Ultra Instinct against Jiren, noting how calm it was despite the intense heat he was emitting.

He sensed heat. Even with god ki mortal feel pressure.

Check the scene again. He mentions the heat AFTER commenting on the "energy", not the "pressure". The subs on Crunchyroll aren't perfect, but they DO make the distinction between the energy of sensible Ki, and the pressure of God Ki.

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To bring this all back to this thread, I don't think the Ultra Instinct comes with an inherent "power boost" after seeing the latest episode. At the very least, not as massive of one as expected.

IT is a massive once since he wouldn't be able to even pushed Kelfia if it wasn't huge. It doesn't take a big power different for someone to no sell an attack. Goku's power was undermined by him thinking before he attacked.

[JazzMazz]

So far Jiren has only considered Goku and Hit opponents that he needs to fight, all the other times his interfered has been against fighters that have been causing a ruckus like Kale and Maji Kayo.

Hell, even in this episode, it was only Goku's re-activation of UI that interested Jiren and characters commented that Jiren was only really interested in Goku despite Kelfa being extremely powerful at that point.

This leads me to believe that Jiren isn't really interested in purely powerful opponents, like Kefla for example, but he is fact interested in opponents that may have dangerous abilities and with enough power to back themselves up, like for example Hit, who though not the strongest, had a plethora of dangerous abilities that could have proven dangerous to his other team mates.

Here's the thing, Hit attacked him just Maji Kayo. When Hit tried to blindside him, Jiren asked Hit what did he want. Not the statement of someone he saw as particularly noteworthy. He didn't even bother to fight Jiren in 104, while he did bother with the Maji Kayo.

Maji Kayo was becoming a pain in the ass, also, he didn't start meditating in the middle of the battle field after he defeated Maji Kayo and "claimed there was no one else worth fighting".

Also, Jiren was told by Belmond to get on the move and to leave the small fries, thats why he didn't really interfere in earlier fights all that much and why he was watching Son Goku and Hit fight and after both were incapicitated or defeated, he simply opted to meditate even though there were opponents like Freeza and Vegeta still perfectly active.

[HeroR]

Maji Kayo was becoming a pain in the ass, also, he didn't start meditating in the middle of the battle field after he defeated Maji Kayo and "claimed there was no one else worth fighting".

Also, Jiren was told by Belmond to get on the move and to leave the small fries, thats why he didn't really interfere in earlier fights all that much and why he was watching Son Goku and Hit fight and after both were incapicitated or defeated, he simply opted to meditate even though there were opponents like Freeza and Vegeta still perfectly active.

How was Maji Kayo becoming a pain the ass? Toppo could deal with him, but Jiren decided he would do it. Plus, he didn't meditate with Maji Kayo since he knew Goku was the strongest person in the tournament and Goku was targeted specifically because of that. Goku's defeat was meant to crush everyone's spirits. Hit just got in Jiren's way and Jiren punished him for it.

By Jiren's dialog of asking Hit what did he want, it indicates that Hit wasn't really on his radar.

[Pannaliciour]

Ahaha doesnt matter who is talking, its a way for the writer to tell us something. It can't be always the same (Whis). It is true if nobody contradicts him.

But, the difference is that Whis is way more credible than Piccolo, he knows what Ultra Instinct is and is an expert regarding God Ki.

Yes correct but like i said it cant be always whis. Piccolo needs screentime his voice actor needs to get paid etc. You really think audience (mostly kids) are going to question if a character is reliable?

[JazzMazz]

Maji Kayo was becoming a pain in the ass, also, he didn't start meditating in the middle of the battle field after he defeated Maji Kayo and "claimed there was no one else worth fighting".

Also, Jiren was told by Belmond to get on the move and to leave the small fries, thats why he didn't really interfere in earlier fights all that much and why he was watching Son Goku and Hit fight and after both were incapicitated or defeated, he simply opted to meditate even though there were opponents like Freeza and Vegeta still perfectly active.

How was Maji Kayo becoming a pain the ass? Toppo could deal with him, but Jiren decided he would do it. Plus, he didn't meditate with Maji Kayo since he knew Goku was the strongest person in the tournament and Goku was targeted specifically because of that. Goku's defeat was meant to crush everyone's spirits. Hit just got in Jiren's way and Jiren punished him for it.

By Jiren's dialog of asking Hit what did he want, it indicates that Hit wasn't really on his radar.

Well, for one, he was trying to directly attack Jiren, and Dyspo had caught himself in a bind trying to fight him off, so he was provoked to action, and he won easily, using the force of the wind from his fist.

Hit and Goku were the only fighters in the tournament that Jiren had been monitoring.

Belmond told Jiren to stop conserving his strength, go after Son Goku first, because he was one of, if not the most capable fighter on the field, and ignore all the weaklings.

Yet, he didn't ignore Hit, he asked what Hit wanted because he didn't think Hit would attack him after he easily beat Goku. He basically wondered why Hit was attacking him since he thought Hit would know he couldn't beat him in a fight. However, the fact he still obliged to fight Hit and for considerable period as wel, shows that he thought Hit was at the very least a capable opponent.