Dragon Ball Super VS Dragon Ball GT: which is better?

[Dragonball Black]

I know this seems like an easy answer, especially with how poorly everything was executed in GT. But lets think long and hard about this. Think about the worst animation we have seen in any dragonball series at the start of super, think about character designs and story elements. Pound for pound witch of these is better. Character designs, vs character designs, transformations vs transformations, villains vs villains, story lines vs story lines. And of course there is the glaring problem that super had retelling battle of gods and ressurection of f. So think to yourself, tallying each of these categories, which of these anime's has done it better. Super is at a disadvantage with not being finished, but GT's tarnished legacy should even this out. This should explain these positions well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjwXHCqMGrs&t=2s

[Akyon]

Since I feel the two series are only subjectively viewed as 'good' by many DB/Z fans, I'm going to list my subjective preference; personally I prefer Super.

Jaco, Beerus and Zamasu are better than any new characters GT ever gave us for me personally. Baby Pan is amusing, GT Pan is...less so.

As much as people suggest that Super is the Goku and Vegeta show, Piccolo, Krillin and Tenshinhan have gotten to do a lot more than they ever did in GT...not that this is saying much; Tenshinhan was a still shot and Krillin and Piccolo really only died again apart from their goodbyes to Goku at the end.

Now GT isn't AWFUL by any means; the Dragons were a great idea IMO, but as someone who really enjoys watching the cast interact with one another in the down time and as a fan of the original Z fighter squad, I'm getting a little more for my buck with Super.

[VegettoEX]

I don't think it's appropriate yet to compare the two, for a couple specific reasons:

(1) Dragon Ball Super began with retreads
The first two arcs of Dragon Ball Super don't fully belong to it; their broad strokes and underlying story were already developed and told in full before the series ever began (in the form of Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F'). They are of course now a PART OF the Super TV series, but a full "season" worth of material wasn't its to begin with, which leads into...

(2) Dragon Ball Super is still on-going
Whereas Dragon Ball GT can be dissected and reviewed as a complete whole, we can't do that yet with Dragon Ball Super. It wouldn't be fair to analyze plot points and unknown future developments against something that is fully known and realized inside and out. Who knows what will happen? For example, why criticize the Namekian Book of Legends NOW if something ends up happening with it? Once the series is over, if they don't revisit that, cool; that will then be the appropriate time to call them out on it. I worry that too many doors are open for the series to arbitrarily choose right now to close them all off and start reviewing it as a cohesive whole, when it's anything but.

Too much these days we're put in a position where we feel like we need to pick everything apart immediately, such as individual episode reviews. Dragon Ball has never been about the minutia; it's about the long tail, the journey, the experience. This is why I prefer to review arcs rather than episodes, and why I don't think it's responsible yet to compare GT with Super. There are certainly PARTS that you can compare, because those aren't going to change (the character designs and composer's musical score, for example), but the products as a whole? Not yet! We'll have plenty of time in the future to reflect and do all that; I don't see the need to rush there.

[omaro34]

I don't think it's appropriate yet to compare the two, for a couple specific reasons:

(1) Dragon Ball Super began with retreads
The first two arcs of Dragon Ball Super don't fully belong to it; their broad strokes and underlying story were already developed and told in full before the series ever began (in the form of Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F'). They are of course now a PART OF the Super TV series, but a full "season" worth of material wasn't its to begin with, which leads into...

(2) Dragon Ball Super is still on-going
Whereas Dragon Ball GT can be dissected and reviewed as a complete whole, we can't do that yet with Dragon Ball Super. It wouldn't be fair to analyze plot points and unknown future developments against something that is fully known and realized inside and out. Who knows what will happen? For example, why criticize the Namekian Book of Legends NOW if something ends up happening with it? Once the series is over, if they don't revisit that, cool; that will then be the appropriate time to call them out on it. I worry that too many doors are open for the series to arbitrarily choose right now to close them all off and start reviewing it as a cohesive whole, when it's anything but.

Too much these days we're put in a position where we feel like we need to pick everything apart immediately, such as individual episode reviews. Dragon Ball has never been about the minutia; it's about the long tail, the journey, the experience. This is why I prefer to review arcs rather than episodes, and why I don't think it's responsible yet to compare GT with Super. There are certainly PARTS that you can compare, because those aren't going to change (the character designs and composer's musical score, for example), but the products as a whole? Not yet! We'll have plenty of time in the future to reflect and do all that; I don't see the need to rush there.

Well good sir, I'm certainly looking forward to your podcast where you discuss your thoughts on the Future Trunks Arc that just recently finished.

[successoroffate]

Like Vegetto said, I think it's Apples and Oranges.
I like both of them, GT has a special place in my heart so there's maybe some Bias. The Future Trunks arc did an amazing job in story telling if you ask me.

[precita]

Super is better. But they still have the same problem of not focusing on the extended cast outside of Goku.

[kinisking]

I know this seems like an easy answer, especially with how poorly everything was executed in GT. But lets think long and hard about this. Think about the worst animation we have seen in any dragonball series at the start of super, think about character designs and story elements. Pound for pound witch of these is better. Character designs, vs character designs, transformations vs transformations, villains vs villains, story lines vs story lines. And of course there is the glaring problem that super had retelling battle of gods and ressurection of f. So think to yourself, tallying each of these categories, which of these anime's has done it better. Super is at a disadvantage with not being finished, but GT's tarnished legacy should even this out. This should explain these positions well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjwXHCqMGrs&t=2s

Is your name Dragonball Baby ? End of thread.

[Smilodon]

I can see DBGT better in these items:

- Better animation in fights (In Super we had horrible fights);
- Better idea of evil from dragon balls;
- MUCH better sound tracks;
- Better evolution to SSJ4 instead of SSJ Blue (they just become SSJB and that's all. Even in Z when Goku showed up the SSJ3 transformation, we had a good explanation and almost 10 minutes of transformation, and AMAZING style)....In Super we had SSJ with colored hair (Red, Blue...And the next is possibly White, but in GT we had a very different and unexpected transformation)

And I see Super better in these items:

- More episodes
- Better god's hierarchy. Gods of destructions, Angels, God of everything (But I don't like this friendship with Zen'o, Whis, Beerus...). Now it's opened to much many possibilities;
- Great characters like Vados (my favorite), Whis, Hitto, Beerus, Black, Zamasu...I didn't like anyone new in GT;
- Super Dragon Balls...We saw somebody else (Zamasu) collecting them to have his wishes;
- Another tournaments (one of the best things in dragon ball in my opinion). I'm really excited to see the next one with 12 universes.

[Lujin_16]

I can see DBGT better in these items:

- Better animation in fights (In Super we had horrible fights);
- Better idea of evil from dragon balls;
- MUCH better sound tracks;
- Better evolution to SSJ4 instead of SSJ Blue (they just become SSJB and that's all. Even in Z when Goku showed up the SSJ3 transformation, we had a good explanation and almost 10 minutes of transformation, and AMAZING style)....In Super we had SSJ with colored hair (Red, Blue...And the next is possibly White, but in GT we had a very different and unexpected transformation)

And I see Super better in these items:

- More episodes
- Better god's hierarchy. Gods of destructions, Angels, God of everything (But I don't like this friendship with Zen'o, Whis, Beerus...). Now it's opened to much many possibilities;
- Great characters like Vados (my favorite), Whis, Hitto, Beerus, Black, Zamasu...I didn't like anyone new in GT;
- Super Dragon Balls...We saw somebody else (Zamasu) collecting them to have his wishes;
- Another tournaments (one of the best things in dragon ball in my opinion). I'm really excited to see the next one with 12 universes.

Gt soundtrack better than the trunks arc soundtrack??

[Bansho64]

Gt soundtrack better than the trunks arc soundtrack??

What's with the question marks? Is it really so hard to believe that someone prefers the former over the latter? Heck, I prefer the GT soundtrack over the Trunks arc's soundtrack any day. Most of the pieces in the Trunks arc were unmemorable in my eyes and none really stuck out as beautiful to me.

To answer the topic question, yes, I've been preferring GT over Super so far in every aspect.

[Lujin_16]

Gt soundtrack better than the trunks arc soundtrack??

What's with the question marks? Is it really so hard to believe that someone prefers the former over the latter? Heck, I prefer the GT soundtrack over the Trunks arc's soundtrack any day. Most of the pieces in the Trunks arc were unmemorable in my eyes and none really stuck out as beautiful to me.

To answer the topic question, yes, I've been preferring GT over Super so far in every aspect.

unmemorable??? are you sure about that??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQgVLjBa-rs&t=7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkEQCLFWhyE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajiG_cQERPg

[ailema88]

For me kid Goku and annoying Pan ruined GT.. maybe it has better animation than Super but the villians didn't impress me as Black and Zamasu did it now. We can compare some aspects between the 2 series but not as a whole cause Super hasn't finished yet..

[DBZAOTA482]

Does Super have the Black Star Dragon Ball Saga? That will answer your question.

[Bansho64]

unmemorable??? are you sure about that??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQgVLjBa-rs&t=7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkEQCLFWhyE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajiG_cQERPg

Pretty much. I've probably watched scenes with those in them, and I never find myself humming or remembering them at all after watching. That's not to state how good I think some of those tracks are, but of my memory of them. Well, I guess Goku Black's introduction track might be the exception but even that is a little iffy in my memory of it. I will admit that those are pretty good tracks, especially when compared to what we've gotten previously in Super.

Heck, I remember more and think more fondly of the Buu arc Kai tracks moreso than nearly all of the tracks that have been newly introduced in Super. I was glad when I heard them included in the last couple of episodes in the Trunks arc.

[Cipher]

Does Super have the Black Star Dragon Ball Saga? That will answer your question.

Is the proper way to judge by lows, highs, or overall experience independent from any particular half-hour episode or arc?

Re: Soundtracks: I think I've always had more love for Sumitomo than most; some of his better Kai tracks were used with excellent placement near the end of the previous arc. But he isn't in the running with the atmosphere Tokunaga's created, and the placement for Sumitomo's tracks is often, unfortunately, subpar.

[Black_Liger]

I like SSJ4, And GT had it's share of good stuff, like Ledgic, 4 Star Dragon, and of course the music is real good.

But I'd pick Super any day, especially when it comes to FT Arc, it's better than anything on GT, regarding the music, I think both are equal in terms of good music. But I don't see Goku Black's theme on GT... soo... hehehe.

[Hit!!]

Does Super have the Black Star Dragon Ball Saga? That will answer your question.

Then that makes Super better because that arc was shit..


GT may be better than Super in many aspects, but to me GT is boring as hell.. Like extremely boring. Super is much more entertaining than GT, and the lore expansion of Super is much much better than GT. I'd say Super is better by a landslide, in my opinion.

[kinisking]

On a more serious note, DB super is much better than Gt. I find Gt boring in many aspects. Ssj4 and Gohan are the only thing Gt did that was better. Yes, it had more consistent animation but the choreography was pretty bad compared to supers a lot of the time. I hate the abuse of ki blasts (which super does sometimes too).

[Black_Liger]

the choreography was pretty bad compared to supers a lot of the time. I hate the abuse of ki blasts (which super does sometimes too).

^^^^^^ This, people often give shit to Supers choreography, but GT's was pretty bland most of the time, just plain boring, ever since U6 Tournament arc Super had a jump in quality for choreography, and in FT Arc it pretty much blows anything about GT out of the water.

[Boo Machine]

I give it to Super mostly because Super is just more fun.

GT has it's great moments, but I'm never really bored with Super. But with GT there are too many parts where I'm just struggling not to doze off.