Your implications are not factual.Amir wrote:He said perhaps when Jiren was really suppressed, so that "perhaps" heavily implied Jiren had indeed surpassed GoD state, they would never add that line if it wasn't true.
Even if Beerus doesn't think this GoD is stronger, the fact he beat him in arm wresing confirms Beerus and that said GoD are at least equal, and Jiren is stronger than that GoD.
Besides, in 130 Jiren broke his limits and got way stronger so if you still think he wasn't above the GoDs before, after that power up he FAR surpassed them.
Take it to the strength discussion thread.
No, the events are speaking manga only. As the descriptions and pictures are Toriyama's manga continuing with Toyotaro's Super manga images along with V jump covers. Nothing anime specific except for the Broly movie images which continues the canon manga.ricky84 wrote:Some of the Super designs on that broad are not done by Toyotaro. And some of the info on the broad if you read closely also references events that were anime-only. That debunks your argument.
Exactly.MisteryOne wrote:Literally all of the Super designs excluding obviously the Broly movie ones are done by Toyotaro and most of them even appeared in covers or V-Jumps. Are we looking at the same image? Also when does it show anime only stuff? I only see manga only things like Zamasu being alonside SS1 Black after he saved him.
It's amusing that people keep thinking the manga is a promotional product when it stopped being so back on chapter 9. When was that, 2 years ago?