Scenes like this make me appreciate Goku's character a lot more.
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Scenes like this make me appreciate Goku's character a lot more.
Goku reenacting his fight with Granpa Gohan. It's sad to see how the majority of the fan base failed to notice this beautiful reference. This scene when understood is amongst the most heart wrenching scenes in the entirety of dragon ball.
How can something be so subtle yet want to make you shed a few tears. Goku's the type of character who rarely has moments of vulnerability and to see him cope with his emotions with the only way he knows just makes me appreciate him more as a character. Though subtle, scenes like this convey and show how surprisingly deep Goku is as a character which people seem to ignore or misunderstand.
Not only this, it also shows you how great of martial artist Goku really is, to remember the exact same movements and reenact a fight flawlessly from thirty years ago just shows you how skilled of fighter he really is.
This is one of the reasons why Goku is my favourite character. What do you guys think? Please share your thoughts and opinions. Bye .
Re: Scenes like this make me appreciate Goku's character a lot more.
It's definitely a clever touch. Whoever was behind that moment should be really proud.
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Re: Scenes like this make me appreciate Goku's character a lot more.
It’s a shame they couldn’t apply this same level of attention to detail throughout the entire storyline of Super.
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Re: Scenes like this make me appreciate Goku's character a lot more.
True.Nia wrote:It's definitely a clever touch. Whoever was behind that moment should be really proud.
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This is the proper way to do homages. Not reusing poses in scenes like the anime tends to do.
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Re: Scenes like this make me appreciate Goku's character a lot more.
So when Toei does it it's genius but when Toyotarou does it it's plagiarism?
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When it is subtle, Toei have gotten enough slack in the past as much as Toyo, are we forgetting #100? Stop trying to make agendas where none exist.Marco Polo wrote:So when Toei does it it's genius but when Toyotarou does it it's plagiarism?
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I did see a couple replies about Toyotaro's reuse of scenes in older threads. Toyotaro's are more subtle and don't really annoy as much as reusing the same exact story-boarding of Vegeta's first final flash. And it's only one panel that people will rarely notice.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:When it is subtle, Toei have gotten enough slack in the past as much as Toyo, are we forgetting #100? Stop trying to make agendas where none exist.Marco Polo wrote:So when Toei does it it's genius but when Toyotarou does it it's plagiarism?
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They notice.Exline wrote:I did see a couple replies about Toyotaro's reuse of scenes in older threads. Toyotaro's are more subtle and don't really annoy as much as reusing the same exact story-boarding of Vegeta's first final flash. And it's only one panel that people will rarely notice.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:When it is subtle, Toei have gotten enough slack in the past as much as Toyo, are we forgetting #100? Stop trying to make agendas where none exist.Marco Polo wrote:So when Toei does it it's genius but when Toyotarou does it it's plagiarism?
Anyway, it really is a nice moment and probably the best done homage in Super.
Re: Scenes like this make me appreciate Goku's character a lot more.
Toyotaro's """homages""" are less subtle than the average Michael Bay movie, and he most certainly does frequently use the exact same story-boarding (Frost eliminating Tenshinhan is almost identical to Goku vs. Tenshinhan in the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, for instance). And while I'll usually ignore it when it involves at least one of the same characters, there's plenty that are just painfully distracting.Exline wrote:I did see a couple replies about Toyotaro's reuse of scenes in older threads. Toyotaro's are more subtle and don't really annoy as much as reusing the same exact story-boarding of Vegeta's first final flash. And it's only one panel that people will rarely notice.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:When it is subtle, Toei have gotten enough slack in the past as much as Toyo, are we forgetting #100? Stop trying to make agendas where none exist.Marco Polo wrote:So when Toei does it it's genius but when Toyotarou does it it's plagiarism?
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This is not even remotely subtle.
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Re: Scenes like this make me appreciate Goku's character a lot more.
The image doesnt work for me...
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Re: Scenes like this make me appreciate Goku's character a lot more.
I'm starting to see that as well. It almost looks like he traced over the drawing and just change the characters in those positions.Nia wrote:Toyotaro's """homages""" are less subtle than the average Michael Bay movie, and he most certainly does frequently use the exact same story-boarding (Frost eliminating Tenshinhan is almost identical to Goku vs. Tenshinhan in the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, for instance). And while I'll usually ignore it when it involves at least one of the same characters, there's plenty that are just painfully distracting.Exline wrote:I did see a couple replies about Toyotaro's reuse of scenes in older threads. Toyotaro's are more subtle and don't really annoy as much as reusing the same exact story-boarding of Vegeta's first final flash. And it's only one panel that people will rarely notice.Baggie_Saiyan wrote: When it is subtle, Toei have gotten enough slack in the past as much as Toyo, are we forgetting #100? Stop trying to make agendas where none exist.
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This is not even remotely subtle.
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Re: Scenes like this make me appreciate Goku's character a lot more.
I don't think it's quite straight up tracing (at least not in every case), but it definitely raises one's eyebrows.majinwarman wrote:I'm starting to see that as well. It almost looks like he traced over the drawing and just change the characters in those positions.Nia wrote:Toyotaro's """homages""" are less subtle than the average Michael Bay movie, and he most certainly does frequently use the exact same story-boarding (Frost eliminating Tenshinhan is almost identical to Goku vs. Tenshinhan in the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, for instance). And while I'll usually ignore it when it involves at least one of the same characters, there's plenty that are just painfully distracting.Exline wrote:
I did see a couple replies about Toyotaro's reuse of scenes in older threads. Toyotaro's are more subtle and don't really annoy as much as reusing the same exact story-boarding of Vegeta's first final flash. And it's only one panel that people will rarely notice.
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This is not even remotely subtle.
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I don't think he is but it looks really questionable.Nia wrote:I don't think it's quite straight up tracing (at least not in every case), but it definitely raises one's eyebrows.majinwarman wrote:I'm starting to see that as well. It almost looks like he traced over the drawing and just change the characters in those positions.Nia wrote:
Toyotaro's """homages""" are less subtle than the average Michael Bay movie, and he most certainly does frequently use the exact same story-boarding (Frost eliminating Tenshinhan is almost identical to Goku vs. Tenshinhan in the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, for instance). And while I'll usually ignore it when it involves at least one of the same characters, there's plenty that are just painfully distracting.
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This is not even remotely subtle.
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Re: Scenes like this make me appreciate Goku's character a lot more.
I mean... it’s probably the most subtle reference in the entire franchise, and just insanely subtle in general. You would have had to watch the Dragon Ball episode right beforehand to recognize it if someone else didn’t point it out to you.Khandom101 wrote:It's sad to see how the majority of the fan base failed to notice this beautiful reference. This scene when understood is amongst the most heart wrenching scenes in the entirety of dragon ball.
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Re: Scenes like this make me appreciate Goku's character a lot more.
Can someone explain what this is referencing? The image doesn't work.
Re: Scenes like this make me appreciate Goku's character a lot more.
batistabus wrote:Can someone explain what this is referencing? The image doesn't work.
It's a sequence outside of Baba's palace while he's waiting for her to bring out Freeza just before the Tournament of Power. He's reenacting the exact actions he made during his fight with Grandpa Gohan from the original Dragon Ball series.Cure Dragon 255 wrote:The image doesnt work for me...
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Re: Scenes like this make me appreciate Goku's character a lot more.
Out of the all continuity nods and Easter eggs in Super, this was without a doubt the best. Mainly because it's a great reward for those who are familiar with some of the earlier story arcs of Dragon Ball, as well one of the most heartwarming fights in the entire franchise, but it's also a great demonstration that Goku hasn't forgotten where he came from and what's important to him
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Re: Scenes like this make me appreciate Goku's character a lot more.
That may just be one of my favorite moments from the anime. Thanks for pointing it out.Nia wrote:batistabus wrote:Can someone explain what this is referencing? The image doesn't work.It's a sequence outside of Baba's palace while he's waiting for her to bring out Freeza just before the Tournament of Power. He's reenacting the exact actions he made during his fight with Grandpa Gohan from the original Dragon Ball series.Cure Dragon 255 wrote:The image doesnt work for me...
Hopefully this link will work for you guys.
Re: Scenes like this make me appreciate Goku's character a lot more.
Yeah, subtle wasn't the right word to use. Sorry!Nia wrote:Toyotaro's """homages""" are less subtle than the average Michael Bay movie, and he most certainly does frequently use the exact same story-boarding (Frost eliminating Tenshinhan is almost identical to Goku vs. Tenshinhan in the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, for instance). And while I'll usually ignore it when it involves at least one of the same characters, there's plenty that are just painfully distracting.Exline wrote:I did see a couple replies about Toyotaro's reuse of scenes in older threads. Toyotaro's are more subtle and don't really annoy as much as reusing the same exact story-boarding of Vegeta's first final flash. And it's only one panel that people will rarely notice.Baggie_Saiyan wrote: When it is subtle, Toei have gotten enough slack in the past as much as Toyo, are we forgetting #100? Stop trying to make agendas where none exist.
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This is not even remotely subtle.
I like the way he references in scenes like these. It gets redundant after a while, but I don't think it's more offensive than what the anime has put out.