What do you think of Gigant MnG Gokuu now?
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What do you think of Gigant MnG Gokuu now?
Curious to know people's opinions.
For me, it felt out of nowhere and place, and it took me out the story to the real-life production aspects of it. It just feels so not-from-Toriyama. I've accepted it because it is what it is, so I'm no longer baffled at it, but still haven't come to like it.
What was your reaction then and what do you think of it now?
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Re: What do you think of Gigant MnG Gokuu now?
Goku can fight Godzilla now.
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Re: What do you think of Gigant MnG Gokuu now?
So Goku is now Ant-Man?
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Re: What do you think of Gigant MnG Gokuu now?
That I don't know who looks more stupid, Goku fighting in his own forehead or Moro looking like a naked crack addict.
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I'm fine with it. It's a new skill.
Nothing different from IT or fusion, I wonder if people felt those were weird back then.
Nothing different from IT or fusion, I wonder if people felt those were weird back then.
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Re: What do you think of Gigant MnG Gokuu now?
He already did:
Kong v Godzilla = Goku v Frieza
Goku using Gigantification still feels out of place to me, but at least it has buildup from prior chapters. I think it would make more sense for Vegeta to be the one to use this technique, all things considered, but even he likely didn't have time to learn it. If the anime adapts the technique, I hope they can make it feel less random.
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Re: What do you think of Gigant MnG Gokuu now?
Have no problem with it, but think it might have been begging for a little “small/big” metaphorical build-up to real feel like a spectacular capstone instead of just a neat move in the finale.
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I thought it was cool. It makes sense as a means to counter a giant holding him in place. Way less absurd than sentient ghost ki!
It would be pretty funny if Granolah pulls out a technique like this against Vegeta
It would be pretty funny if Granolah pulls out a technique like this against Vegeta
Re: What do you think of Gigant MnG Gokuu now?
I like when he fights the planet.
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Re: What do you think of Gigant MnG Gokuu now?
When I first saw it, I was surprised (I don't think anyone saw it coming), but my feeling was pretty much like BWri's in thinking that, given all the Spirit Control material in mid-arc (including a reference to Gigantification), this would've sat better with Vegeta. I was fine with it, but that was about all.
Since then, I've come to view this scene at least partially through the lens of the Goku-Piccolo Daimao confrontation, like so:
Looking at it this way, the giant manifestation of Goku is a latter-day version of the appearance of the image of the Oozaru at the point of the decisive strike, giving Goku the opening he needs to land the final blow - only in the Moro arc, this is Divine Power, which is a special feature of the arc, as opposed to simply Goku's latent power, so Giant Monkey gets replaced with Giant Divine-Power Goku. Given the whole sequence is sparked off with Goku using the same line in both, it seems to me that this is what is the general point of the manifestation here.
Thinking of it this way, I enjoy it a good deal more than I did originally, as it plays on Moro's character inspiration from the Daimao to construct an ending to the battle that (in my opinion) deliberately trades on both this and the end of Dragon Ball (Vegeta's Spirit Fission intervention using Uub's Divine Power trades a lot, visually and conceptually, on the place of Genki Dama in the final battle against Buu), fusing features of the two into the climax of the arc. I think it works very well, naturally placing the demonic main villain in direct opposition to Goku and his story specifically (but then, I think there are several manoeuvres made to this end in the last Act of the arc generally).
I think the whole thing's clever, and I like it a lot.
Since then, I've come to view this scene at least partially through the lens of the Goku-Piccolo Daimao confrontation, like so:
Looking at it this way, the giant manifestation of Goku is a latter-day version of the appearance of the image of the Oozaru at the point of the decisive strike, giving Goku the opening he needs to land the final blow - only in the Moro arc, this is Divine Power, which is a special feature of the arc, as opposed to simply Goku's latent power, so Giant Monkey gets replaced with Giant Divine-Power Goku. Given the whole sequence is sparked off with Goku using the same line in both, it seems to me that this is what is the general point of the manifestation here.
Thinking of it this way, I enjoy it a good deal more than I did originally, as it plays on Moro's character inspiration from the Daimao to construct an ending to the battle that (in my opinion) deliberately trades on both this and the end of Dragon Ball (Vegeta's Spirit Fission intervention using Uub's Divine Power trades a lot, visually and conceptually, on the place of Genki Dama in the final battle against Buu), fusing features of the two into the climax of the arc. I think it works very well, naturally placing the demonic main villain in direct opposition to Goku and his story specifically (but then, I think there are several manoeuvres made to this end in the last Act of the arc generally).
I think the whole thing's clever, and I like it a lot.
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I didn't have a problem with it and thought it was pretty cool. I heard it might've been inspired by the Susanoo from Naruto. I haven't watched Naruto so I had to look it up and it does look similar. When I first saw it, I assumed it was based on other ki construct techniques like the Dragon Fist and Ghost Kamikaze and not something that difficult for Goku to do.
Re: What do you think of Gigant MnG Gokuu now?
I think I like it less now than I did before. Back then I thought of it in terms of the arc itself (which I dislike), like "how much dumber can this arc get?". Now I dislike it because it makes UI stupid. It went from automatic movement to hardening the body, telekinesis, giant ki constructs.
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Re: What do you think of Gigant MnG Gokuu now?
I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. Some things just doesn't "feel right" in Dragon Ball. Just like Zamasu's hologram bird. Something feels off about them, like they belong somewhere else.
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Re: What do you think of Gigant MnG Gokuu now?
The second and third pictures were familiar, but hadn't noticed common line, thanks. It doesn't really change much my general feeling of it, but I can appreciate it when thinking about it.
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True, but also being absurd was kinda the point of the Kamikaze Ghosts. It does set the precedent tho, that it what made me accept after processing it.