Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

[Kishido]

Nah, I guess only weapons and healing items are forbidden.

Something I also noticed, maybe no one saw them fuse as they were falling off. I’m not mad but here’s to hope that it gets mentioned.




And Goku...Move out the way, we want Frieza!

But she is healed by the Potaras as well

[Gt91]

Something I also noticed, maybe no one saw them fuse as they were falling off. I’m not mad but here’s to hope that it gets mentioned.




And Goku...Move out the way, we want Frieza!

But she is healed by the Potaras as well

Mmm you are right in a way. Maybe they'll explain this in the next episodes.

[HeroR]

Something I also noticed, maybe no one saw them fuse as they were falling off. I’m not mad but here’s to hope that it gets mentioned.




And Goku...Move out the way, we want Frieza!

But she is healed by the Potaras as well

Potaras is not a healing item and the fusion is a new being. So Cali and Kale weren't 'healed'.

[Doctor.]

Remember when they established the previous arc that Potara at this level of power is basically useless because you burn through all your Ki in an instant? Funny, that.

Remember when they established back in BoG that Super Saiyan God was a bigger power boost than a Potara fusion (with SS forms on top of that)?

More hilarious is the fact that Toei thinks we care about that forced terrible emotional moment at the start when they've given us NOTHING to care about with these characters.

What a terrible episode, thank God the visuals were great.

[Kishido]

Remember when they established the previous arc that Potara at this level of power is basically useless because you burn through all your Ki in an instant? Funny, that.

Remember when they established back in BoG that Super Saiyan God was a bigger power boost than a Potara fusion (with SS forms on top of that)?

More hilarious is the fact that Toei thinks we care about that forced terrible emotional moment at the start when they've given us NOTHING to care about with these characters.

What a terrible episode, thank God the visuals were great.

Believe in Freeza that this will end soon

[PerhapsTheOtherOne]

Polarizing once again, it seems.

I wonder what accounts for the difference.

[AloversGaming]

If anything, this episode proves that it's impossible to make Caulifla and Kale interesting. It was written by Toshio, Super's best writer, and even HE couldn't do anything with their characters.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go change my pants from that artwork.

I disagree. The episode shows that Kale and Caulifla play off each-other fantastically, from a character and personality standpoint.

Agreed. The girls are great together, and I love Caulifla being a mix of Goku and Vegeta's personality. Confident like Goku, cocky like Vegeta, but not to the extreme Vegeta was during Z. And Kale keeps getting better, too.

[julianix]

I'm betting the Nameks also fuse... just watch .

[julianix]

Remember when they established the previous arc that Potara at this level of power is basically useless because you burn through all your Ki in an instant? Funny, that.

Remember when they established back in BoG that Super Saiyan God was a bigger power boost than a Potara fusion (with SS forms on top of that)?

More hilarious is the fact that Toei thinks we care about that forced terrible emotional moment at the start when they've given us NOTHING to care about with these characters.

What a terrible episode, thank God the visuals were great.

Believe in Freeza that this will end soon

Freeza is our only hope at this point.

[Doctor.]

Polarizing once again, it seems.

I wonder what accounts for the difference.

Some people care about consistency, others don't.
Some people like Kale and Caulifla, others don't.
Some people place animation above writing, others don't.

Pretty simple distinction to make here.

[Totamo]

Remember when they established the previous arc that Potara at this level of power is basically useless because you burn through all your Ki in an instant? Funny, that.

Remember when they established back in BoG that Super Saiyan God was a bigger power boost than a Potara fusion (with SS forms on top of that)?

More hilarious is the fact that Toei thinks we care about that forced terrible emotional moment at the start when they've given us NOTHING to care about with these characters.

What a terrible episode, thank God the visuals were great.

Nah, zamasu was a potara fusion and he lasted way longer and he was supposed to defuse.

also are you seriously that ssg is weaker than ssb vegito because thats what you are implying

[Doctor.]

Nah, zamasu was a potara fusion and he lasted way longer and he was supposed to defuse.

Zamasu was a permanent fusion.

also are you seriously that ssg is weaker than ssb vegito because thats what you are implying

What? No, I'm saying SSG, according to BoG, is stronger than SS Vegetto, or SS3 if you wanna push it, which is why base Kafla shouldn't have been a threat at all.

[Totamo]

Nah, zamasu was a potara fusion and he lasted way longer and he was supposed to defuse.

Zamasu was a permanent fusion.

also are you seriously that ssg is weaker than ssb vegito because thats what you are implying

What? No, I'm saying SSG, according to BoG, is stronger than SS Vegetto, or SS3 if you wanna push it, which is why base Kafla shouldn't have been a threat at all.

Not in the manga , zamasu was said to not be permanent. Then again the manga and the anime are very different when it comes to that so, maybe you are right. This is on Toei.


and i don't think that was said in the anime or manga versions that vegito line.

[Noah]

Potaras is not a healing item and the fusion is a new being. So Cali and Kale weren't 'healed'.

But they should be weaker right? I mean Goku and Vegeta had to eat a Senzu before becoming Vegetto in the previous arc.

[Lord Beerus]

Nah, zamasu was a potara fusion and he lasted way longer and he was supposed to defuse.

Zamasu was a permanent fusion.

also are you seriously that ssg is weaker than ssb vegito because thats what you are implying

What? No, I'm saying SSG, according to BoG, is stronger than SS Vegetto, or SS3 if you wanna push it, which is why base Kafla shouldn't have been a threat at all.

Not in the manga , zamasu was said to not be permanent. Then again the manga and the anime are very different when it comes to that so, maybe you are right. This is on Toei.


and i don't think that was said in the anime or manga versions that vegito line.

The whole "Even Vegetto wouldn't enough to defeat Beerus" was in the anime retelling of BOG but not in the manga retelling of the BOG.

[dbs fanboy]

Nah, zamasu was a potara fusion and he lasted way longer and he was supposed to defuse.

Zamasu was a permanent fusion.

also are you seriously that ssg is weaker than ssb vegito because thats what you are implying

What? No, I'm saying SSG, according to BoG, is stronger than SS Vegetto, or SS3 if you wanna push it, which is why base Kafla shouldn't have been a threat at all.

Why not? Isn't Kale like a real threat by herself alone? Then giving the fact, that potara earrings boost so much the power of it's users, and that both Kale and Caulifla could hold their own (thought not defeating) fighting ssgod Goku, what's the problem?

Yeah i get it, the Vegetto line in BoG, but wasn't that referring to Z Vegetto or something? Yeah i get it ssj 3, but how is that relevant if we don't know Goku's current power and Kale's power (Not mentioning Caulifla cause i think she's pretty much on par with ssj 2 Goku).

Also, wasn't the point in the last arc that Vegetto defused because he used too much power and not because he was so broken that his time limit was too short?

Now what i do wonder is how the hell was Goku transforming, wasn't he tired or something? I'm pretty sure that getting beat up =/= resting.

[HeroR]

Zamasu was a permanent fusion.



What? No, I'm saying SSG, according to BoG, is stronger than SS Vegetto, or SS3 if you wanna push it, which is why base Kafla shouldn't have been a threat at all.

Not in the manga , zamasu was said to not be permanent. Then again the manga and the anime are very different when it comes to that so, maybe you are right. This is on Toei.


and i don't think that was said in the anime or manga versions that vegito line.

The whole "Even Vegetto wouldn't enough to defeat Beerus" was in the anime retelling of BOG but not in the manga retelling of the BOG.

It was also in the uncut version of the Battle of Gods movie.

[Totamo]

Zamasu was a permanent fusion.



What? No, I'm saying SSG, according to BoG, is stronger than SS Vegetto, or SS3 if you wanna push it, which is why base Kafla shouldn't have been a threat at all.

Not in the manga , zamasu was said to not be permanent. Then again the manga and the anime are very different when it comes to that so, maybe you are right. This is on Toei.


and i don't think that was said in the anime or manga versions that vegito line.

The whole "Even Vegetto wouldn't enough to defeat Beerus" was in the anime retelling of BOG but not in the manga retelling of the BOG.

The anime really loves shoot themselves in the foot. its like when they made base vegetto curbstomp buuhan.

[Olympian]

Why does any Ki blast with tracking control gets associated with Sokidan? If i remember correctly back in DB Piccolo used a tracking Technique against Goku

It goes without saying. It was the first freelly controllable technique of the whole Manga.

[Doctor.]

Also, the two fused while transformed, so... here's (another) plot hole for you.

and i don't think that was said in the anime or manga versions that vegito line.

It was said in every version of BoG; it was a plot point.

Why not? Isn't Kale like a real threat by herself alone? Then giving the fact, that potara earrings boost so much the power of it's users, and that both Kale and Caulifla could hold their own (thought not defeating) fighting ssgod Goku, what's the problem?

Why do people not seem to understand something so simple? Kale is a threat when she's transformed, her base form is weak. Kafla, likewise, should be a threat when she's transformed, she shouldn't be a threat to SSG Goku in her base form.

Yeah i get it, the Vegetto line in BoG, but wasn't that referring to Z Vegetto or something? Yeah i get it ssj 3, but how is that relevant if we don't know Goku's current power and Kale's power (Not mentioning Caulifla cause i think she's pretty much on par with ssj 2 Goku).

It doesn't matter to which Vegetto it's referring. Goku basically says "The power boost of Super Saiyan God is bigger than the power boost of the Potara (with Super Saiyan on top)." We're not talking about character strength or powerlevels, we're talking about an established plot point: SSG's boost is bigger than Potara's.

Also, wasn't the point in the last arc that Vegetto defused because he used too much power and not because he was so broken that his time limit was too short?

He used "too much power" by firing off a Final Kamehameha. Via the same logic, any time Kafla attempts a strong Ki attack, she should defuse.